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Originally posted by Shadowhawk
reply to post by AFewGoodWomen
Thank you, AFewGoodWomen, for your startlingly ignorant post. While it is true that Area 51 was never used for anything related to extraterrestrials or UFOs, it is hardly just a supply depot. It is the site of an active Test Wing engaged in numerous highly classified, Presidentially directed flight test programs. These include technology demonstrations, experimental and developmental flight-testing of manned and unmanned vehicles, low observables verification for operational systems, and exploitation of foreign military hardware. This is not speculation, it is documented fact backed up with testimony from people who have actually worked there.
Originally posted by weavty1
Sorry, but the concrete strip and pad, that skirts the old center taxiway, is/was not a compass rose, nor was it used to dump A12/SR71 fuel as it leaked. Which by the way, was NEVER a 'problem'.. In fact, it was a hyper-critical design feature/function of the A12/SR71. The majority of component parts on the Blackbird airframe fit very loosely together to allow for expansion at high temperatures. At rest on the ground with fuel aboard, fuel leaks out constantly, since the tanks in the fuselage and wings only seal at operating temperatures. Plus, JP7 does not stain concrete or asphalt, not visibily at least. However, it does produce a slightly oily surface, but exposed to direct sunlight all day in the Nevada desert, it will eventually evaporate fully from the pad surface.
This area is actually used for the paint striping and paving equipment, for cleaning, aligning, and maintenance of the machines before, during, and after a taxiway/runway/ramp/pad re-striping/paving/etc.
Observe:
edit on 12/28/2012 by weavty1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by gariac
reply to post by AFewGoodWomen
Where oh where do I start? It isn't Xi, it is Xe. When you get right down to it, Blackwater begat Xe begat Academi.
Devgru not Seal Team Six.
Getting on 29 Stumps or Pendleton isn't too hard. No need to blur GE, but if you post coordinates, I will take a look. Getting on Groom Lake is another story.
Photographing military installations from outside the fence is not a crime.
Originally posted by gariac
reply to post by AFewGoodWomen
Security screws with me often enough. I tell them I can use the lawsuit. I had General Atomics try to BS me that they will call the sheriff to arrest me for taking photographs. I photographed them (security) for good measure. I waited a good hour for the sheriff, but it got too dark to shoot.
These photography prohibition signs are meaningless.
I say again, give me specifics where the Google photos are doctored.
See if you can get that shift key fixed. A little punctuation skill might convince me you aren't a pimple faced teenage boy.
I have to ask...!?*&^%$#...there's your punctuation.
Originally posted by AFewGoodWomen
What you're really looking for is in Utah...and I'm not telling you anything else...and let me tell you...it's not guarded by any PFC's...more like Xi and Blackwater types. Quit wasting your time at Groom Lake...don't you understand that the Govt. wants you to believe that there is something there? That way...you don't go poking your nose into Utah.
Originally posted by FosterVS
Originally posted by AFewGoodWomen
What you're really looking for is in Utah...and I'm not telling you anything else...and let me tell you...it's not guarded by any PFC's...more like Xi and Blackwater types. Quit wasting your time at Groom Lake...don't you understand that the Govt. wants you to believe that there is something there? That way...you don't go poking your nose into Utah.
Well, that points to either UTTR and/or Dugway/Michael AAF. Perhaps Hill AFB as well? Give us a hint?
While I don't doubt your credentials, I've always been told that the black programs were and are compartmentalized, need-to-know basis. Yet you seem to speak with authority about things that weren't in your purview? Please understand, ATS has had a plethora of phonies and frauds (please do not mention Lazar again...) so you have to understand the skepticism.
My only point in mentioning Bob Lazar was that he was a fraud...and every other person who claimed to have worked there...as a civilian...have been proven as frauds. My knowledge of things is purely circumstantial...and yes, I did have "need to know" clearance...these units were my accounts, of course. As far as the installation in Utah...I don't have any idea where it is...no one on my level does, I just know that it exists, probably under DHS property...all I know is that I wouldn't poke around. I am glad that I don't have to have my phones tapped anymore and I'm not looking for it to start again. My clearance went inactive in 2006...ten years after my discharge, the only way I can mention anything I have so far is because of the Freedom of Information act...I still can't talk about certain accounts I provided for, but why would I want to rock that boat anyway?
All I'm offering is my account of things I've seen that I can talk about now...and I'm towing the line with that. Take what you want from it.
Originally posted by gariac
reply to post by AFewGoodWomen
I have to ask...!?*&^%$#...there's your punctuation.
That would be "There's your punctuation." Still not convinced.
What good are rights if you don't exercise them? Give the corporations some complication.
However the real problem is your comments about Groom Lake are just so far from reality
Originally posted by boomer135
And finally, what the hell is this thing? Cause I’ve given up trying to find out…
The Wullenweber (the original name introduced by Dr. Hans Rindfleisch was Wullenwever) is a type of Circularly Disposed Antenna Array (CDAA) sometimes referred to as a Circularly Disposed Dipole Array (CDDA). It is a large circular antenna array used for radio direction finding.
It was used by the military to triangulate radio signals for radio navigation, intelligence gathering and search and rescue. Because its huge circular reflecting screen looks like a circular fence, the antenna has been colloquially referred to as the elephant cage.
The term wullenwever was the World War II German cover term used to identify their secret CDAA research and development program; its name is unrelated to any person involved in the program.