Lon Horiuchi, Government Killer

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posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Anyone remember Ruby Ridge? The Waco Siege? There's been a lot of talk lately about how the Government's responsible for this, or the government used mind control to do that. I don't much like to talk about it. Too much ambiguity. However, it still stands that the government's favorite killer is still alive, still at large, and still living his life.

Lon Horiuchi. The man who shot Vicki Weaver, and her son. The man who shot dozens and dozens of people at Waco, who were trying to flee the burning compound. This man was put up for trial for his crimes against the people, but his case was dismissed by the federal government. Thanks a lot, federal government.

Now, he's doing advertisements for rifles. I find this in incredibly poor taste.
The crimes of Waco and Ruby Ridge rest on this fellow's trigger finger. He ought to be in prison.




posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Advertising for what rifles?
I find it hard to believe any manufacturer would be so naive to choose such a person.
References? Links?



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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I found this article

Ruby Ridge Killer Now Gun Spokesman

and this was linked from above article


Gun Company Hires Mother’s Assassin

An American gun manufacturer has hired a professional killer to tout the merits of its weapons. What better spokesman could a company have than one who has shot and killed a young mother with her baby in her arms?

The South Dakota company’s Internet website has proudly published a letter attesting the greatness of its new sniper weapon.

“Pound-for-pound, component-for-component, dollar- for-dollar, you will not find a better rifle,” says the new spokesman for H-S Precision in Rapid City. His name is Lon Horiuchi, a government assassin who retired from the FBI in 2006. AFP called to ask him if this was also the weapon he used to blow away the face of Vicki Weaver at the remote area of Ruby Ridge in Idaho in 1992, but he did not return the calls.
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posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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There's your link. Now, it seems outrageous that this sort of thing would happen. It seems like a farce. But, hey, Oliver North ran for Senate in '94, and Marion Barry was re-elected after being caught on camera smoking crack, so nothing's impossible.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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ok - this claim is from 2009 - can any of you forward any credible evidence for this allegation - hint wingnut blogs are not credible evidence

anyone ??

i only ask - because the only connection to h-s precision i can find is "Lon hararouchie" , and i would expect a company to spell its own alledged spokesmans name correctly



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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The original ad has since been removed.

Here is a saved archive of the original ad in question.

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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by MagicWand67
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The original ad has since been removed.

Here is a saved archive of the original ad in question.

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Sick.



posted on Dec, 27 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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It is sick. It's completely depraved. It's an affront to the victims to suffer that sort of indignity, their killer's reputation being built on those events. That he would go on to shill that sort of thing.



posted on Dec, 27 2012 @ 09:19 PM
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i honestly dont see a problem here [ i do see a potential conflict of interests - deprendant on the dates of the sad / fbi tests and procurment program - but thats another issue ]



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 04:30 AM
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You don't see a problem with a murderer being used for gun ads?



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 04:45 AM
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i see an endorsment from an FBI agent - others in the thread are screaming " government assasin "



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 04:59 AM
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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
You don't see a problem with a murderer being used for gun ads?


When was he found guilty of murder?



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 06:04 AM
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Are you not familiar with Ruby Ridge?



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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Someone doesn't have to be found guilty in a court to be a murderer. It's documented he was involved in multiple murders.

Ruby Ridge

In 1992, while working at sniper position Sierra 4 for the FBI Hostage Rescue Team at Ruby Ridge, Horiuchi shot and killed Vicki Weaver and also wounded her husband, Randy Weaver, and Kevin Harris.[2]

After his first shot hit and wounded Randy Weaver, Horiuchi fired a second shot at Kevin Harris, who was armed, some 20 seconds later as Harris was running into the Weaver home. The bullet struck and killed Vicki Weaver while she was holding her 10-month-old child behind the door through which Harris was entering the home;[2][3] the round also struck and wounded Harris.[4]

Following the conclusion of the trial of Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris in 1993, the Department of Justice (DOJ) created a "Ruby Ridge Task Force" to investigate allegations made by Weaver's defense attorney Gerry Spence. On 10 June 1994, the Task Force delivered its 542-page report to the DOJ Office of Professional Responsibility. The Report stated: "With regard to the two shots fired on August 22, we concluded that the first shot met the standard of 'objective reasonableness' the Constitution requires for the legal use of deadly force but that the second shot did not satisfy that standard."[5]

The surviving members of the Weaver family received $3.1M in 1995 to settle their civil suit brought against the U.S. government for wrongful deaths of Sammy and Vicki Weaver. In the out-of-court settlement, the government did not admit any wrongdoing. Harris received $380,000 in 2000.[6]


Waco


On 13 September 1993, Charles Riley, a fellow FBI sniper deployed during the Waco Siege claimed that he had heard Horiuchi shooting from Sierra 1, an F.B.I.-held house in front of the compound holding eight snipers, including Horiuchi and Christopher Curran on 19 April 1993.

Riley later retracted his statement, saying that he had been misquoted, and that he had only heard snipers at Sierra 1 announce that shots had been fired by Branch Davidians.[7] T

hree of the twelve expended .308 Winchester shell casings that the Texas Rangers reported finding in the house were at Horiuchi's position. However, officials maintain that they could have been left behind from the earlier use of the house by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives snipers on February 28, 1993, and that it would be "nearly impossible" to match them to Horiuchi's rifle, as it had probably been rebarreled since that time.[8] For the five months following the Waco inferno, Timothy McVeigh worked at gun shows and handed out free cards printed up with Horiuchi's name and address, "in the hope that somebody in the Patriot movement would assassinate the sharpshooter". He wrote hate mail to the sniper, suggesting that "what goes around, comes around". McVeigh considered targeting Horiuchi, or a member of his family, before settling on a bombing attack on a federal building- choosing to target the Murrah Building


Manslaughter Charge


n 1997, Boundary County, Idaho Prosecutor Denise Woodbury, with the help of special prosecutor Stephen Yagman, charged Horiuchi in state court with involuntary manslaughter over his killing of Vicki Weaver. The U.S. Attorney filed a notice of removal of the case to federal court, which automatically took effect under the statute for removal jurisdiction[10] where the case was dismissed by U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge on May 14, 1998, who cited the supremacy clause of the Constitution which grants immunity to federal officers acting in the scope of their employment.[2]

The decision to dismiss the charges was reversed by an en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit, which held that enough uncertainty about the facts of the case existed for Horiuchi to stand trial on state manslaughter charges.[2] Ultimately, the then-sitting Boundary County prosecutor, Brett Benson, who had defeated Woodbury in the 2000 election, decided to drop the charges because he felt it was unlikely the state could prove the case and too much time had passed. Yagman, the special prosecutor, responded that he "could not disagree more with this decision than I do."[11] The Ninth Circuit granted Boundary County's motion to dismiss the case against Horiuchi on September 14, 2001.[


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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
Are you not familiar with Ruby Ridge?


Yes, again, when was he found guilty of murder?

So he was never a murderer, you shouldnt claim he was when he obviously was not.
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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by WaterBottle
Are you not familiar with Ruby Ridge?


Yes, again, when was he found guilty of murder?

So he was never a murderer, you shouldnt claim he was when he obviously was not.
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He's a murderer, it is documented he murdered multiple people. Whether or not he was convicted of murder in a court is irrelevant to reality.


So he was never a murderer, you shouldnt claim he was when he obviously was not.


Um, he has shot and killed multiple people. He was even charged with manslaughter.

It is clear you are not familiar with Ruby Ridge.
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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
Um, he has shot and killed multiple people. He was even charged with manslaughter.


It appears you are the one not familiar with Ruby Ridge, and are confused about what murder actually is.

So he was charged with manslaughter, and was acquited. He was never even charged with murder...



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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He was acquitted via federal dismissal. Nixon was pardoned. Does that mean Nixon was innocent? No, it means he got off the hook.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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I wonder how many of these psychotics are under government employ?

If Feinstein gets her wish every home with a firearm in it will be a potential Ruby Ridge.

It was a stupid firearms violation that sparked all of the Weavers pain.





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