reply to post by logical7
But i would like to know what you meant by 'stoning that go on..' ??
The non-muslim world cant comprehend it because of sheer ignorance. And they dont feel a need to know the truth themselves of what MSM tells them.
are you curious about sharia laws in criminal offences or already judged them as barbaric?
Its a difference between two systems. The non-muslim world tries to comprehend it with standards of their system and obviously fails.
Remember we talked earlier about finding the "common denominator"? Humanity must strive to understand one another; and to eradicate such outrageous
atrocities that Taliban (or whoever) thinks are "appropriate."
I've looked at "sharia law", yes, and tried not to let the obvious "slant" of the MSM or advertising campaigns taint my understanding of it.
"What 'stoning'"?, you ask ...
Iran: Four women stoned to death Nov 2012
This one includes a statement saying:
Islamists: Two stoned to death in Mali Aug 2012
ews of stoning of these four women have been published while in the October 4, 2012, Allahyar Malekshahi, Law and Justice Committee chairman of
Islamic Consultative Assembly (the Parliament) had spoke of determining alternative punishment for "stoning" in the new bill of "Islamic Penal
This one by
"extremists" who are terrorizing Mali with unduly harsh "sharia law".
Death by Stoning
History: Stoning is arguably the world's oldest form of execution. It is as old as written literature, and the most common death penalty described
in the Bible (prompting Jesus' famous anti-death penalty statement in John 8.7: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"). Although it has
never been a legal form of execution in the United States, it is practiced elsewhere in the world, primarily in the Middle East and sub-Saharan
So a simple "Google" for "stoned to death" and you get pages and pages of hits. This happens regularly.
Here is a list from wiki page on Moden incidences of Stoning
Soraya Manutchehri, 1986, stoned to death in Iran after unconfirmed accusations of adultery
Mahboubeh M. And Abbas H,at Behest-e Zahra cemetery, southern Teheran, Iran, 2006.The public was not invited to the stoning, and the incident was not
reported to the media, however it was spread by word to mouth to a journalist and womans rights activist. The activist gathered information and
further exposed the happening to the world. In response to this, several women's rights activists, lawyers and members of the Networks of Volunteers
went on to form the Stop Stoning Forever campaign to stop stoning in Iran.
Du’a Khalil Aswad, 2007, a 17-year-old stoned to death in Iraq
Jafar Kiani, in Agche - kand, a small village near Takestan, Iran, 2007.
Sara Jaffar Nimat, aged 11, in the town of Khanaqin, Iraqi Kurdistan, 2007. She had been hit by bricks and stones, and burnt.
Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, aged 13 in Kismayo, Somalia, 2008.
Kurdistan Aziz, aged 16, Iraqi Kurdistan, 2008. She had been stoned in an act of "Honour" - killing.
Shano and Daulat Khan Malikdeenkhe, in Khwezai - Baezai area, Pakistan, 2008
Solange Medina, 2009, a 20 year old stoned to death in Juárez, Mexico
Vali Azad, 30, in Gilan province, Iran, 2009.
Gustavo Santoro, 2010, a small town mayor in Mexico believed to have been murdered by stoning
Murray Seidman, 2011, a 70 year old senior in Philadelphia, stoned to death by 28 year old John Thomas after allegedly making sexual advances towards
the younger man. Thomas' defence is that he did it because The Bible says to kill homosexuals.
Then there is this page FAQs about Stoning
Shouldn’t we just accept stoning as part of someone’s culture and their right to freedom of belief?
There is no excuse for the killing of women in the name of any ‘religion’, ‘culture’ or ‘tradition’. ‘Religion’ and ‘culture’
cannot and must not be invoked as excuse for the killing of women, because religion and the laws which derive from it are always subjective
interpretations. Culture is not static, but constantly re-created and re-defined by the various interests of groups in positions of power in a society
at any given time.
...No ‘culture’ has the right to kill and harm women based on their perceptions of morality or honour. The freedom of belief does not mean freedom
to kill. Stoning is a brutal example of how culture and religion are being misused to perpetuate violence against women.
I see that it happens in certain Muslim countries and not others; that it is supported by some "traditionalists" and condemned by other Muslims...
How is the Muslim world in general trying to eradicate it?
Capital punishment is horrible. That said, humanity still practices it, at individual and societal (genocidal) levels.
I don't have the answers, but I certainly want to understand what is being done to stop it.
I saw a great sign once:
"Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?"
These stonings weren't carried out as punishment for killing people, though.
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