Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by BrokenAngelWings33
I simply find it ridiculous that anyone can think we are the only form of intelligent life.
There are many other places where humans reside. But, things will be different there. (Life span, physical features, language, etc.)
Not sure I would call them Humans, however, I think it is hysterical that "scientists" think for life to exist on other planets it would need to
have Earth like atmosphere conditions. Anyone been in the ocean? Unless I am mistaken the atmospheric conditions there are considerably different
and although we don't consider many of those species to be intelligent, I have seen behavior to the contrary. We, also, have not explored more than
10% of any oceanic atmosphere.
Actually, the scientist are not looking for "Earth Like Conditions".
Mostly what they are looking for is a planet that's about the right size in the right place from it's star. That put's it in the green zone, where
the temps allow for liquid water to exist.
Now, that is also because they are looking for "life as we know it", which means here on our planet, life that requires water.
Not oxygen, as we have life on here that doesn't need it, and we have had life in the Earth's past with a very poor amount of oxygen in the
However, one thing has be constant for us: liquid water.
Now, that doesn't mean that they don't think some other medium can be used, it's just that we do not know of any other type of life that exists
We do know that we are made up of some of the most common elements in the universe: CHON (Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen), so it simply would
make sense that with that common abundance of it out there, that life should exist out there. Then of course comes in the math that says it should
Now, intelligent life, tool building life, space traveling life, I would say that the universe is so vast that it would make sense for it to be out
However, when we look at how we came to be as an intelligent race that are tool builders,etc, it can make one raise their eyebrows a little and
Here is why:
It seems we've had one lucky break after another. Depending on what theories you believe, it can read something like this:
1) A Mars sized planet had to hit the Earth just right, at just the right angle to produce the moon. Any other way and it would have destroyed us
completely, or no moon at all.
2) Large moon, formed just right, and orbits just right so that it slowly moves away from us, but not before helping slow down the spin we had from
the impact (something like a 5 hour day?), caused massive ocean tides to help mix up the "soup" that life came from.
3) Different types of life did form, and during all that time, the right life formed to give us the right oxygen rich atmosphere, but of course
there's been ups and downs with that.
4) We've had many different ELEs, some wiping 90% and 95% of all life, until eventually mammals formed and came out on top.
5) I believe current popular theory has our very early ape like humans in the trees in an area of Africa, quite happy, no reason to come down, until a
rupture changed the climate and made us get down out of the trees and walk upright to get to other patches of trees.
6) We stopped eating just fruits and veggies and started to eat meat, which made our brains grow even more, and started using tools to help catch that
even more meat.
That isn't all of it, but again, if you look at all that, there were so, so many things that could have gone wrong or different, and we would not be
here to have this convo. We might still be very small fury rodent like creatures hiding in holes.
Does it mean intelligent design? I'm not saying it does. But I am saying that considering what all it took for us to exist as intelligent, tool using
creatures, it makes you wonder how many times it's happened just like that, or closely to it on other planets out there.
But then, yes, the universe is so vast, that there is room enough for those odds for it to have happen, or will happen again.