Originally posted by Myth024
If a civilization is lost then how do we know it exists till after we've found it.
A good question, and one that people don't stop to think about (other than superficially.)
Most don't understand that civilizations don't just "pop up" because a cave man said "the heck with caves. I want cell phones." A civilization
means multiple cities, a culture that is unique (and has unique art and artifacts), established trading routes and roads to resources (like farms and
water and seaports) and technology.
That doesn't happen overnight.
Nor does collapse.
What usually happens is that the civilization weakens (drought, bad rulers, invasion) and gets taken over by another culture. They use the city sites
(and farms and everything else) and tear down the old stuff and build their own new stuff.
The point is that we've seen how our world can change from a tornado, earthquake, flood, mudslides and any number of natural disasters.
But none of them (short of an asteroid) could wipe out a civilization (in the case of an asteroid, it would have to be a very small and local
Think about it: The huge earthquake didn't destroy Japanese civilization last year. The Christmas Christchurch earthquake didn't destroy New
Zealand's civilization. Vesuvius (volcano) destroyed Pompeii, but it did not destroy the Roman civilization.
There does seem to be some evidence that something catastrophic happened to the earth that wiped out large portions of the population that
existed at that time.
In popular fiction, yes. In real world examples, no. There was one population bottleneck when humans were close to extinction but that was only homo
sapiens (modern man) and it happened well over 70,000 years ago before there were any civilizations.
So with all the various civilizations that are gone how many more exist that we haven't found?
We have no idea. However, Google Earth is making it easier.
So I say, what if there was a civilization that knew of impending doom and made a choice to go into hiding. If they stayed there, then they
would be lost but not gone and there would not likely be any indications in other cultures to indicate their existence.
You can have organizations that go into hiding, and some civilizations can ban outsiders, but everyone knows they're there. It's too difficult to
hide what everyone already knows.
If you found an intelligent creature with a pale body, large eyes and small stature could we not say that it's a human race that has evolved
due to living underground?
No. If it lived with no light, it would have lost its eyes. If it has a civilization and needed light to see, then (like we do) it would take its
light sources underground with it.
To close this thought up, with all the archeological investigations and scientific inquiry could there be evidence of a civilization
specifically hiding themselves from the world in general and could this evidence only make sense if all data is taken together as a whole?
Lost because of combining with other groups, yes. Deliberate hiding (a civilization), no.
Tribes could and have hidden, yes, but they are "cultures" (tribes) and not "civilizations."