Originally posted by MrSpad
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by MrSpad
While you can not say all combat-MOS members get brainwashed, you can definitely say for certain that they try to brainwash them.
That starts from the second you get off the bus. They even tell you they are about to do it. Then they put you in tiny tiny shorts and tell you
"nut-to-butt privates" (depending on where you are at). That means what it says btw.
Other than that, you are right, and it is one of the things that makes our military better. We actually tell our soldiers they do not have to follow
unlawful orders. That doesn't mean they do not receive unlawful orders.
I personally see no reason to conclude that he actually did kill himself, although it is possible. The thing is, they could kill any SEAL they wanted
to without the others knowing "they" did it. Who is they? Good point huh.... There are many ways to control people, even SEALS. The easiest way is to
keep them too busy to realize what is actually happening (which is what is happening in our society too btw).
Of course, this might not be a conspiracy. There have been similar conspiracies in the past though....
You are certainly regimented do a degree, more so in say the RANGERS but, that is a far cry from brain washing. SOF units in particular and very
unregimented. They are without a doubt the most individualist thinking in the entire military. I have worked with SEALs and other special operators
a great deal and they are a far cry from brainwashed killing machines. They are just people with a special skill set. Sometimes people kill
themselves for a variety of reasons. More so if you have been in combat. In the military you have a lot of down time and allows for a lot of
thinking about things. And near the holidays away from home who knows what problems he had, It is not the first time this has happened nor will it
be the last. Also I have yet to see a single thing to suggest this is more than it is. Not one single thing.
Well, brainwashing is maybe over-stating it but *only* slightly. Well, unless my OSUT was a special program that they didn't tell us about (highly
highly highly doubt it BUT who knows right). I witnessed this, I was one of the few (about 2-5 of us out of 30 I would estimate, I only know of 2)
that did not get brainwashed. It isn't like MK Ultra brainwashing LOL but still. They believe anything they are told, and do anything they are told.
Seriously I saw some pretty extreme examples of them believing anything they are told. They thought their DS's were second fathers - that is not
They brainwashed us(them) with sleep deprivation (2 hours sometimes, some nights no real sleep for weeks at a time, red phase NO sleep really). They
would normally only let us take one or two bites of food. IK you are supposed to get 4 hours a night minimum and 2:00 to eat, but we did not. 30
seconds was a "blessing". After the basic part of OSUT, it got better, 6 hours of sleep and all that. I could go into more detail, and this was just
cav scout OSUT (albiet the hardest one out of all the other companies, which raised my suspicion - they even got to watch a movie one time in Delta!
I actually enjoyed my training, it was the other privates snitchin and acting like drones that got on my nerves.
I think you mentioned you are in, did you OSUT at Knox? I am assuming you are combat but I can not remember, what MOS are you if you don't mind me
I still do not in any way believe PTSD and nightmares are causing the *majority* of these suicides. Seriously, I am from a military family. I know
what's causing it. The root of it is the *I can't say what I have to say here about the CoC without getting the post removed* bad people (NOT all of
them at all) in the chain of command. The symptoms of this disease are various.
off topic - just to this poster:
I wish the government would realize what an asset I would be one day.... The normal channels to serve the country are just not an option for me
though. I would not want to be in combat with anyone as scared as the privates I saw in my OSUT. Scared of their own team at that. It has something to
do with the way my brain is wired I think IDK. Either way, I got medded out in part because they broke their contract with me and also didn't let me
come home for my daughters birth or brothers (not blood) murder.
Maybe one day they will realize what they are missing out on and utilize me to do some good out here who knows? I mean I do have more combat
experience than most people that have been overseas... IDC if they do come find me really, it just boggles my mind they haven't. I just wanna go into
Syria and get it poppin
. Having kids decapitate no no: lets get it. I also love Israel. Maybe I should go join IDF! (JK JK)
30-12-2012 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)