reply to post by EarthCitizen07
No that is preposterous of you to state. God is god, satan is satan, angels are angels, demons are demons. I am who I am. I simply dislike the
official church and question its inconsistancies, especially in regard to controversial material. It has omitted stuff, mistranslated stuff, and
generally made spiritualism dysfunctional.
Because you're going with what the west has given you rather than go back to the source.
Wow. First a catholic, then an atheist, then a universalist. How is it possible to reconcile such extremes?
By having a diversified set of opinions for which to reason from and solve a problem, as well as have a competition of ideas in my head to understand
issues that need complex reasoning to solve.
Satan/Lucifer is the one known to constantly lie about nearly everything. How do you know you have not been mislead? You really want to go down this
rabbit hole that is nearly endless and a preposterous waste of time?
I'll go down as deep you're willing to go, but it is possibly off topic here.
Suffice to say, there are ways to check, if you are willing to believe the word.
Please do tell me where the ancient alien hypothesis meets with the bible. Do tell me what angels, god, demons, satan/lucifer are. Do tell me why the
council of nicea decided to strip information from the official list.
Shall I pm you? I know these things. I know how to source them in the Bible, and even other bible-related books like Enoch. But I should say you are
false to say the council of Nicea stripped out things. Once again, that is your western viewpoint from 2000 years after the event. The council of
Nicea's goal was to focus on writing the Bible for the salvation of man, and it did that through looking at the writing styles, sources, and origins
of the books available at the time. This is actually quite clear if you go back to the original language. They did not delete books. They had all
those other books then, and they continued to be in use, even quoted in the Bible and by the scholars of the time.
What you've failed to realize is that after the Council of Nicea, a little something called the fall of western civilization occurred. Which, as is a
tendency for the fall of civilizations, included the destruction or loss of most bodies of information. That happened to include most books not
included in the bible. We occasionally find these books, such as in the dead sea scrolls. And a careful observation of them reveals why they were left
out. They did not deal with the salvation of man, and some of them seem to be flat out fraudulent.
I remind you again. The bible was not written to be a history book. It was written for the salvation of man. Books not pertaining to this subject were
not included, because they were off topic. You wouldn't put Charles Darwin's origin of species in a physics book any more than you would put the book
of Enoch in the Bible.
This is also, fyi, why sets of books not pertaining to the salvation of man, but instead the history of the people, such as the Jewish Talmud, have
more books than the Bible. Because they are books pertaining to another subject matter. Namely, the history and order of the cultural ways of the
Now for whatever divine reason, the Bible survived. And I believe there is a reason for that.
Why we worship on sunday(day of the sun) rather than on sabbath? Why we need to perform sacrifices, be them mild/moderate/severe and how this is not
a continuation of pagan worship? What role the elohim and nephelim play?
Congratulations, everything you mentioned is not the focus of the bible, and for the most part, not demanded of by the Bible.
I repeat. Please ask yourself what you believe is actually in scripture, and not merely a cultural construct of yourself, your parents, or your
cultural origins. It makes things a helluva lot easier to understand.
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