Netanyahu: Jerusalem is ours, I don't care what the UN says

Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

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"Can't see the trees through the forest" ... comes to mind here. The return of the Jewish people to a homeland of Israel has been a dream of European Jews since the destruction of Jerusalem and the scattering of the Jews to foreign lands. Problem was that many Jews found their new homelands quite comfy and prospered very well for many centuries and in fact became prominent citizens in their communities and countries. Yes there was resentment among some peoples and pogroms occurred as a result, but where the Jews assimilated into the local culture and customs, these incidents were less frequent. At the beginning of the 20th century, the goal toward achieving a Jewish homeland gained momentum in the Zionist movements. Now this is where this tale starts to take on more interesting and sinister characters. In order to understand where the funding for such an undertaking as nation building comes from is to get a glimpse at the roots of Zionism. Familiar characters like Nazis, Communists and of coarse Rothschild s get their hands in the mix. You want to get people to move from a well established, comfortable home. Take those things away and make sure their ability to provide for their families is taken also. Strip them of all money, rights, citizenship and dignity ... they will leave. Why drive the Jewish people back to Israel and not coheres them there? The Zionist had a prophecy to fulfill and time was running out. The end justifies the means. The Jewish people are also pawns in the Zionist agenda. The final chapter is already written ... just casting all the characters is left.

I have met quite a few war veterans from world war 2, over the years.
Amongst them members of the Bomber crews that devastated Germany, and Italy.
Underneath all the old fashioned decency and dignity of these people, is the sorrow felt for those women and children and old men and young men , who weren't Nazis or facists they killed.
Without the bombers Britain would not have survived , but they did some terrible things on behalf of us, they sacrificed their innocence(many were very young men.
The Israel military and initially terrorists in order to win their outcome, did some very terrible things on behalf of their agenda.
The Israelis and many Jews who live in New York, Florida, UK, Russia ect, need to acknowledge this, in order to be at peace with God.
God loves the Palestinians as much as the Israelis or Australians, Americans, Britons,Sudanese, Turks, POles ect ect ect.
That's all I have to say on this subject.

www.israelnationalnews.com... seems like Abbas is saying he might step down if they dont see progress in the peace talks...

Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas threatened on Thursday that he will disband the PA unless there is Israeli movement toward renewing peace talks after Israel's elections on January 22, AFP reported. Abbas said that if such a situation arises he will hand full responsibility for Judea and Samaria to the Israeli government.

interesting devlopment

Originally posted by spangledbanner
Do we really want these two countries telling us what to do?

I think we need new World Police.

So the US and Israel aren't allowed to do what it wants as far as supporting each other

When Israel and America lost the recent UN


lost the recent UN......

seems to me that the UN is trying to tell who should do what...or else
trying to sell their agenda21

so you're right we do need a new world police, the UN should step down...right?! RIGHT?!?
......That was not drafted by the US


food for thought

Originally posted by DerekJR321
Here is a map for you. Please note that Jerusalem lies right on the UN Mandated borders. If you have any information to support your claim that it is Israel's land, please let me see it.

On this page is a map showing Jerusalem clearly within their borders, not on any edge. It's a simple atlas site, nothing political about it.

the page with the map


www.worldatlas.com...
In respect to the Mossad, their motto "By way of deception, thou shall do war" should speak volumes. Here is a list of Mossad assassinations for you to review. Notice the vast majority of their targets.

Mossad Assasinations

I would also like to point out a few terrorist activities that the IDF and Mossad have perpetrated against others:

1. Kristallnacht
   
2. Bromberg Massacre
   
3. The King David Massacre
   
4. Lavon affair
   
5. RFK Assassination
   
6. USS Liberty
   
7. Black September
   
8. Entebbe
   
9. Pan Am flight 73
   
10. Beirut Marine Barracks
    
11. Achille Lauro
    
12. Pan Am Flight 103
    
13. AMIA
    
14. Khobar Towers
    
15. Karin-A
    
16. LaBelle Disco
    
17. TWA Flight 840
    
18. WTC 1993
    
19. Port Arthur Massacre
    
20. USS Cole
    
21. Egyptair 990
    
22. Operation Cast Lead
    

A list....with no proof whatsoever. Useless, and meaningless. Every time ANYTHING happens, there are people that want to place the blame on the MOSSAD and Israel. Well, blame isn't proof.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

So, you are all for attacking a sovereign nation, if someone decides they hate those people, and that said people don't have a right to live? Nice attitude....not.

Originally posted by DerekJR321
Palestinians have as much of a right to live on their land as a bunch of European and Russian immigrants who stole their land.

It isn't their land. They have no borders, no government, no anything, but a name, and support form anti-Israeli groups. The Hebrew people were in that part of the world a LONG time before any Muslim group.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Good for you. I see it even cleaned up nice too.

In 5 billion years when the sun finally goes nova and the Earth is basically a giant crisp---Jerusalem won't belong to anyone and will probably not exist in any useful form. Anyone and everyone who takes the battle over Jerusalem---a mere piece of land that is no more valuable than any other piece of land on this planet--seriously has no sense of perspective or time. Some people or so delusional and small-minded that it is hopeless for them.

-Ghoster

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by ntech
reply to post by FissionSurplus

 

The question is, why should the US continue to support this tiny little upstart country with 1/5 of our foreign aid budget so they can continue their land-grab and genocide?

They are afraid of what this area of the world could become if they weren't preoccupied with this Israel question.

A renewed Ottoman empire.

Once upon a time the middle east was all a part of a large Muslim empire. But their rulers got fat and stupid. They got involved in European wars and the empire shrank. Finally in World War 1 they backed the wrong side and were broken up for their troubles.

So what's the answer to your question? They are using Israel as a foil. A distraction.

Somebody realized awhile back that the tendency of this part of the world is to try to reunite it as a future empire. And could you imagine the power a "United States of the Middle east" could wield today?

Imagine the world if these guys ran it. Caliphate.

If Israel didn't exist this Caliphate would have existed years ago.

And sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture to understand the small ones.

Also look at this link and the picture. Link.

Wouldn't pork eating Crusader make a great avatar for someone?

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So tell us which religion makes sense! Is it christianity, islam, judaism, hinduism, buddhism, sikhism, confusism, paganism?? There can only be ONE UNIVERSAL TRUTH! Which is it? How do aliens fit in the picture? Thanks!

Also why is it preferable to have fanatic jews running the middle east on behalf of america(as you put it) rather than muslims running the middle east on behalf of russia? How is it kool to substitute one oxymoron for another oxymoron?

Thanks!

Sorry I was away but let me see if I can answer the question. What is the universal truth. After some study I figured out a hidden secret in the bible. Advanced Judeo-Christianity 901 if you will. But what I found was this.

Hosea 6
1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

2nd Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Essentially what happened according to the bible was the 1st century Jews triggered a top level Leviticus 26 curse that is supposed to run 2000 years. Then the 2nd problem is exactly who is under this curse.

Genesis 49
1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

Put simply according to Genesis 48 and 49 the offspring of Jacob/Israel is supposed to become a multitude of nations by the end times. The end times being the end of the curse. Quite simply it's the entire world. And that explains why this part of the world is such trouble. It's the center of a major Biblical curse that's still being played out. And should be over with in about 13-16 years by my best guess.

As for your question on the best religion I would have to say Christianity for one reason. If you read Romans 11 while knowing the curse is running you understand what the new covenant is about. It's curse protection.

And to answer the other question according to the prophesies Jews should be running Israel right now. And that the 3rd temple is about to get built according to the timeline. Anytime in the next 5 years.

According to Johnny Cash it's all going according to the book.

reply to post by DarknStormy

That is not just a man on the internet. That is the President of Iran.

There is absolutely zero reasons to trust the leader of a nation.

I don't know how you feel about the above or whether you will even believe it, but that is a very big difference to what you believe he said. Israel is not mentioned once. By him mentioning the word regime, that is a clear indication that his words were directed at the Zionist regime in Israel and not the country itself.

The regime is a democratically elected government with rights for women and gays. So in effect, he's saying he wants to remove a free society. And forgive me, but regime means government. And a government is a nation.

For example, I would rather like to see someone besides Obama as president. I do not want the US regime to fall, however, because it is a constitutional republic.

When you wish to remove a regime, you are saying you wish to remove a government, way of life, and essentially, people. In this case, Zionism.

I disagree with that. And I don't think a man who claims homosexuals don't exist in his own country is competent enough to make the call of what governments should stand or go, and indeed, I don't think he's realistic enough to understand anything but ultra conservative values, which I in many ways reject.

reply to post by Gorman91


I don't care whether they are elected through democracy or not.. The point is the Zionists pose just as much of a threat to Iran than iran to Zionism. The pair of them can eradicate each other for all I care. As for the homosexuality thing, I don't care about that either. You can bat for both sides if you choose but I won't. I respect the man for being honest about his views and you will not see that from any moron in western politics without another agenda behind it.

reply to post by DarknStormy


And I disrespect him for his views, for they are ancient, and obsolete, and serve no other purpose but for control.

Now when a more free society comes to play ball, I will listen. For now, Iran is the lesser, because of theocracy and primitive thought. The average Iranian has more intellectual value than the total minds of the theocratic.

Good thing Ahmadinejad is out for the next election. The priests have been wanting him out for a while now. If theocracy is good for nothing else, it is at keeping things stable.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

And I disrespect him for his views, for they are ancient, and obsolete, and serve no other purpose but for control.

Israel is ancient, it still found its way in the modern world...

Now when a more free society comes to play ball, I will listen. For now, Iran is the lesser, because of theocracy and primitive thought. The average Iranian has more intellectual value than the total minds of the theocratic.

No-one cares if you listen including the Iranians. Why don't the west just leave them alone?

Good thing Ahmadinejad is out for the next election. The priests have been wanting him out for a while now. If theocracy is good for nothing else, it is at keeping things stable.

Don't worry, they will throw in another President and he will be demonised also. Its just the way things roll in the West.

reply to post by DarknStormy

Israel is ancient, it still found its way in the modern world...

Because they advanced. Yes, did you know this? You can change. WoAh!

No-one cares if you listen including the Iranians. Why don't the west just leave them alone?

Because this is the global era, and people one place in the world will not allow people in another place in the world to carry on in darkness. The age of isolation, has ended. If you're doing something that pisses off a few hundred million people and in every way goes against freedom, those people are going to somehow cause or make happen an ending to the other side. Be it politically, economically, or in the rare case, militarily.

Just as the failing Islamic governments were born from an era of national socialism and imperialism, the current Arab Spring is born from the movement to openness and freedom, and they will succeed. Yes, you can call it a form of cultural imperialism. But I guess it sucks to be on the wrong side.

Don't worry, they will throw in another President and he will be demonised also. Its just the way things roll in the West.

That's happening in Iran, so yea, it will be in the East, not the West.

Well, Russia Today is about as reliable as the National Inquirer for news, but Netanyahu has always pretty much done as he pleased and completely ignored international law.

He knows that with almost anything he does, the USA has his back, which is really unfortunate.

Thank God he made that statement that Jerusalem is their's .
It is amusing to people bitching about it.

Shaul mofaz (antichrist) will be israeli prime minister

emam-mahdi-1431.blogfa.com...

reply to post by zanbaq7


How do you know that 'Shaul mofaz ' is antichrist?

PS:- Trying to take Christians on Islam's side so that they can both attack Jews?
Nice try but we all can see your Islamic agenda

One more reason that nutjob must not be re-elected in Israel in a few weeks... the guy is insane and will drive the world toward WW3.

Israel needs SANE politicians... but who am I kiding, all the moderate jews have left Israel a long time ago and now most of the Israelis are the right wingers types...

The whole thing will only end when either Israel is destroyed or Israel nukes half the middle-east.

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The anti-Christ has to have war scars, and be Assyrian, fyi.