Scared??? Of just what??
I owe no money and my taxes are current.
I also have a means of insuring that my property stays mine.
Not my debt, not my worry nor problem.

I think Obama needs to go find himself a full length mirror. Then Boehner needs to find himself a full length mirror. They can then both point to the guy they see there and know they found 50% of the blame for what we are about to suffer together.

They both hold positions of leadership. They both have ways they could act to help end if not outright end this whole thing without 10's of thousand losing their jobs to required layoffs from required cuts THESE two were both in office to see and help put together in the first place. They made it, they broke it...they can now own it.

It's a Boy! Errrr...It's a monster.

(THIS is what the "grand compromise budget committee" last year was supposed to have solved....failed to agree on anything for...and gave up. The failure goes back that far as direct cause to what we're about to see happen. Oh...everyone involved needs to lose their positions. Countless Americans aren't being given a choice about losing theirs in a short time.

Originally posted by g146541
Scared??? Of just what??
I owe no money and my taxes are current.
I also have a means of insuring that my property stays mine.
Not my debt, not my worry nor problem.

That is wrong Im afraid.

Americans should be scared.

When the world dumps the USD, America will likely see hyperinflation. At the very least, interest rates will soar and basic needs will become very expensive.

I suggest investing in the Yuan...

"If we allow that to happen it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in American history."

This is the gist of the problem: congressional irresponsibility. More accurately, congressional irresponsibility to the American people. If this economy goes belly up, the corporate banks close down and the stock market drops into a bottomless hole because of these screwballs, there will be a collective howl from the public.

This whole congress needs to be uprooted and tried for treason.

Originally posted by spangledbanner

Originally posted by g146541
Scared??? Of just what??
I owe no money and my taxes are current.
I also have a means of insuring that my property stays mine.
Not my debt, not my worry nor problem.

That is wrong Im afraid.

Americans should be scared.

When the world dumps the USD, America will likely see hyperinflation. At the very least, interest rates will soar and basic needs will become very expensive.

I suggest investing in the Yuan...

LOL!!! Not even remotely worried still.
If there is "hyperinflation" all I see is US Citizens buying US made and shopping locally, learning to garden and getting back to the basics.
I say bring on the cliff, I got a rope!
So does everyone else, just some realize it and some do not.
Too much hype involved in this cliff.

Originally posted by g146541
LOL!!! Not even remotely worried still.
If there is "hyperinflation" all I see is US Citizens buying US made and shopping locally, learning to garden and getting back to the basics.
I say bring on the cliff, I got a rope!
So does everyone else, just some realize it and some do not.
Too much hype involved in this cliff.

You sure about that? What will you eat and drink; No medication, no electricity; all because the gas stations will be dry since USD hyperinflated... Still not worried?

There is no need for fear mongering should the economy falls off the cliff.

Just stick to the facts and realities.

Although the automatic cuts and hikes will start on Jan 1, It will be sometime before everything kicks in, for example, the tax hikes will only take place on the next financial year - April 2014, not April 2013.

The fat cats know this fact, and will attempt to rob as much as possible from the american people before fleeing to tax havens just right before april 2014.

Thus, unemployment will continue to shrink till 2014 arrives.

As for the cuts in social expenditure, it will hit extremely hard once the budget for the financial year is announced. However, as the economy is improving, with more jobs being created in manufacturing and services and better wages given, it will help offset the pain.

Futhermore, what is needed is for the philanthropic organisations to go full steam to raise funds to help in local american social expenditure expenses such as orphanages, old folks homes, hospital expenses, etc.

As for the churches, it is high time to open up their bank accounts to help their congregations, espacially the mega-churches. No more excuses of saving up for a rainy day, as the rainy day had already come.

They MUST NOT dole out such funds to charity, unless necessary. Giving to charity is good but is droping money into a sinking hole. The church must do what our Messiah had taught - give a man a fish, you feed him a day, but teach him how to fish, and you will feed him for life.

It is time the church get business experienced directors into the board, to source out promising ventures to helps to create sustainable jobs for as many as possible. It could be as simple as helping a homeless but reliable housewife to set up an online trinket production website to energy production manufacturing. The church has the funds for it, if it ever dares to open up its books clean.

Utimately, should the economy goes over the cliff, it will be the rich whom will suffer the most later. By 2014, there is no tax havens to run to. America is the safest and stable nation with rule of law on Earth, despite the delusions of some who are claiming other nations are 'decoupling' from the american dollar.

Which merchant dares trust dictatorships such as China, Russia and Iran? Who dares trust the corrupted Brazilians and Indians? Bankrupted EU? Better the masses wake up to realities, and not be fooled. Finance grads and market savy investors know where the bread is buttered.

Originally posted by Fichorka

Originally posted by g146541
LOL!!! Not even remotely worried still.
If there is "hyperinflation" all I see is US Citizens buying US made and shopping locally, learning to garden and getting back to the basics.
I say bring on the cliff, I got a rope!
So does everyone else, just some realize it and some do not.
Too much hype involved in this cliff.

You sure about that? What will you eat and drink; No medication, no electricity; all because the gas stations will be dry since USD hyperinflated... Still not worried?

I have solar, I have wind, I even got a bike with an alternator.
I grow a garden every year and I can preserve via dehydration and canning.
I know how to procure water out of the ground!
I am also actively looking for a larger place as I type this!
I guess I'd have to use my own meds if I cannot go to a state sponsored mrsa/staph house.
Never cared much for driving, actually prefer riding a bike, but why leave home anyway.
Have you ever eaten a squirrel or pheasant or something that did not come from a commercial plant???
I have and prefer these things.
Sure I enjoy going to the shopping centers and the ease of trading fiats for goods but I do not need to.
Nope, still not skeered.
Nor should anyone else.
Invest in land and your neighbors.

Originally posted by spangledbanner

Originally posted by g146541
Scared??? Of just what??
I owe no money and my taxes are current.
I also have a means of insuring that my property stays mine.
Not my debt, not my worry nor problem.

That is wrong Im afraid.

Americans should be scared.

When the world dumps the USD, America will likely see hyperinflation. At the very least, interest rates will soar and basic needs will become very expensive.

I suggest investing in the Yuan...

so let me get this straight.....IF...IF...america goes back to the tax rates during the clinton admin.....hyper inflation, and the world dumps the dollar?.....geez....ramp up the fear!!!......clinton tax rates!!!!!! ahhhh!!!!