DHS are preparing for Civil War/ Martial Law...................

Real nice video...

I wish this was on TV right after "The Voice"

Make 'wake up' a few of the sheep before they get led to the slaughterhouse.

Problem is....if there is a massive revolt and civil war, and the government is overthrown and replaced by new people...it will just keep happening over and over. There is no answer when it comes to overpopulation, greedy human beings and our generally sinful nature. Thinking that man can solve the plethora of issues facing us with more knowledge and better ideas is a phallacy.

Human beings have no chance. The atheists and other non believers out there should really be praying that God exists. We damn sure aren't going to fix ourselves....and we are almost out of band aids and quick fixes.

reply to post by BSFC123

That is my single largest argument right there against ever pursuing revolution by force. It isn't that America couldn't see success if the citizens turned against the Government with some sense of purpose to replace it. Happens often enough, right? Many civil wars around the world are fought and settled with clear enough outcomes.

The US tho? We'll never get back anything even half as good as we have now, IF such a thing succeeded in taking down what we DO have. We wouldn't have citizens vs. Uncle Sam in America. We'd have Black vs. White. Korean Vs. Black. City Vs. Rural. Liberal Vs, Conservative. Law and Order vs. Law and Forgive vs. No law at all.

ALL of that rabble...that herd of cats trying to kill each other....would be generally aimed at Washington with ill intent and pissed off feelings ....but, after "a few little things" between others get sorted first, I'll bet the thinking devolves into. This is assuming it ever even passed the dumb idea phase at all and we're talking about a population that can't even bother voting by more than 50% on the best turnouts, by average..

I think we might as well fix what we have because it's a WHOLE lot easier than fixing what doesn't even exist yet.....and generally agreed all around on your points.

Originally posted by BSFC123
Problem is....if there is a massive revolt and civil war, and the government is overthrown and replaced by new people...it will just keep happening over and over. There is no answer when it comes to overpopulation, greedy human beings and our generally sinful nature. Thinking that man can solve the plethora of issues facing us with more knowledge and better ideas is a phallacy.

Human beings have no chance. The atheists and other non believers out there should really be praying that God exists. We damn sure aren't going to fix ourselves....and we are almost out of band aids and quick fixes.

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Problem is....if there is a massive revolt and civil war, and the government is overthrown and replaced by new people...it will just keep happening over and over.

True this one has lasted for a couple of hundred years and I figure it will hang in there for a few more; but as in all things I could be wrong. I have had a great life and plan on a few things before I get fuzzy around the edges like some Star War's character.

There is no answer when it comes to overpopulation, greedy human beings and our generally sinful nature.

Yep I too wish everyone who was greedy, sinful and totally believes in the Georgia Guide Stones and 500 million population figure would start hanging themselves. Lead by example etc etc

Thinking that man can solve the plethora of issues facing us with more knowledge and better ideas is a phallacy. Fallacy maybe a little strong but if you look at several population studies nature has a way of handling over population in any species.

We damn sure aren't going to fix ourselves.

A great man said something to the effect the longest journey begins with the first step......there are many walkers about...some good, some not so good.

It always takes a crisis to get this species motivated to make substantial changes; so you might as well sit back and enjoy the ride or learn how to be your own pilot..

P.S. If there is a civil war it will be because the government has strayed to far from the Constitution and their oath of office.......lets us pray, beg, steal, and borrow that crap never happens

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Damn, I mispelled fallacy. I think I have some kind of weird dyslexia concerning ph and f words. Or maybe I just listened to Phish too much as a teenager.

Honestly, I understand the optimism and wish I could share. I don't.

Originally posted by BSFC123
reply to post by 727Sky

 

Damn, I mispelled fallacy. I think I have some kind of weird dyslexia concerning ph and f words. Or maybe I just listened to Phish too much as a teenager.

Honestly, I understand the optimism and wish I could share. I don't.

Many are in your camp and time will tell when the history has been written....Man without spell checker I would be toast...sometimes I am anyway....years and years of hasty shorthand scribbles that only I could read....good excuse??.... Numbers I remember but spelling and a Texas accent do not always go together nicely....

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THis is gonna sound so completely farfetched but i'm not a liar so here goes... i have a friend ( a good friend) who works for DHS out of baltimore... he's the biggest CT'er I know and so if something were up.. i'd here about it from a reliable source.. not from a youtube video.. but thank you.

Revolution > New Government > New Constitution.
Those calling for "revolution" should be careful what they wish for...as a new constitution may not maintain the same rights if the process gets hijacked.

It simply does not matter if the contained in the video is a bit dated, the point which it makes is still VERY relevant. These are not the rantings of some "crazy hillbilly" or "gun wacko", (as you may have noticed, have become the new catchphrases), in some desperate attempt at fear mongering. No, one only has to employ the slightest amount of deductive reasoning, in order to ascertain the the most logical conclusion to these events. What is transpiring, is nothing less than an a "wag the dog" scenario; whereby "events" seem to transpire in such a way, which ultimately leads to the perversion of popular sentiment. Opinion becomes engrained to conform to certain agendas, which call forth for changes in rule of law. The changes which occur in the rule of law, becomes so permanent, unto which they cannot be changed, even after the initial conditioning which prompted the change, has worn away. However, the most insidious link in this entire chain, in the inception and propagation of the "events", which prompted the initial social change.
Ultimately, when you look for a good analogy of what our current political climate is, one need look no further than the similarities between the current U.S, and the late Wiemar Republic and the "events" which led to the rise of total fascism.

reply to post by lacrimaererum

ATS is now over run with the pro-gun lobby

or it could just be individuals with opinions. I've never lobbied Washington for anything.

Well well, the gloves are off are they?
my arent we all testy after an "EVENT'........?
There is a current that is sweeping us inexorably into a hive mind society.....
As communications get spread far and wide among us.....there are those who pervert the information stream to fix the public mind with certain attitudes and feelings.
They are called disinfo specialists...
Then there are those whose conscience and morals have long been stripped away, who are willing to perform
bombings, killings, and torture to further their employers agendas....They work for goverments, for industry, and for the criminal element.....some call them hit men, some are called black ops....or Mossad...
CIa, MI6, Acedemi, the names are endless...the job is the same ..spreading sufficient fear and terror to force compliance. to the secret agendas.
That children die every day is no new thing.....
But the people will rebel and throw off the goverments yoke if they ever awaken to the knowledge of how many have already died at the hands of these influencers....These murderers, by comission, and by omission.....
3000 Americans died at Pearl harbour, and now we have been given documented proof that the then president allowed this attack to take place......why? to move the people according to his agenda.
and war was declared the same day......not just against japan, but against the fascists too....
Witholding the vital warning killed men women and children that day....
I have alays shuddered at the knowledge of the men trapped within the steel ships which became their coffins to this day.....Sentenced to a horrible death to make a nation go to war....
That this and many other DOCUMENTED "events.." have been perpetrated upon us is fact!
The nation has nothing to show the world or itself without a return to the constitution and the bill of rights as origonally penned.......the repeal of the Patriot acts and the NDAA...as well as the spying on all Americans....and curtailment of Executive Orders.....

There are overwhelming forces arrayed against this course of action.....i believe this is deliberately planned..
When the resistance turns on the goverment, they are preparing to come down with a bltzkrieg so unthinkable as to crush all resistance with a brutality and swiftness that will end any thoughts of further struggle against them.
They feel Americans havent the strength of character or the will to successfully throw them out and replace them with true representitives of the people.

You like my avatar? I've had it a while now. Yeah, I CAN see the future.

Originally posted by oper8zhin
Any martial law/civil war pulled by them against the people would go much more smoothly if they DISARMED the citizens first...

Whoa, wait...

America must NEVER let the 2nd Amendment be stripped away from us by any modern day TRAITORS currently in charge!!!!!

We The People have the Right to KEEP and BEAR ARMS, and that shall not be taken away no matter WHAT stunts, planned events, or reasoning our modern day TRAITORS try to pull!!!!!

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If they outlawed guns 80-90% of people would hand them over rather then become a criminal and have to go to jail. The other 10-20% would be branded terrorists and get a ton of air time on the government controlled media.



At the end of the day TPTB would win. In the next year we will see troops with police authority on American soil. They will do it because the sheep will beg for safety and instead of using the police they will use troops.




Just think about how many people thought it was so great when the ex marine showed up at his kids school in uniform. The sheep ate it up and loved the very thought of it. Trust me when I say they will notice this and take it as a sign the masses are ready for it.

Its a good video well worth the watch! One issue the video touches on while not mentioning specifically is the systematic effort to consolidate all law enforcement and military under one DHS umbrella for a federal police (gestapo) force. This is where it is all leading. Federal bribe money and equipment has local police forces allowing federal agents to enforce unconstitutional laws and policies in the states from taxes to drug laws etc. The government corn principle....

This is the real danger. These people have a plan and they are executing systematically. There will be no overnight draconian gun ban or martial law declaration. At least not until they are confident they can handle a revolt. They just keep implementing it incrementally. They do no want to alert the masses to their plans. And the small percentage of us that are on to them they can label as crazies and potential terrorist etc...

here is a possible scenario that could come soon:

WASHINGTON – President Obama today issued a sweeping executive order banning the manufacture, sale and possession of all semi-automatic firearms in the U.S.

Obama cited for his authority for the action a national state of emergency that has been in effect ever since Sept. 11, 2001, and renewed annually by both President George W. Bush and Obama ever since. He also cited portions of the Patriot Act that suspend certain civil rights that remain classified.

The dramatic action by the president follows closely on the heels of the Newtown, Conn., massacre of 27 schoolchildren and teachers by Adam Lanza a week ago.

Read the rest here: www.wnd.com...

first link i could find

The Department of Homeland Security is truly massive it employees upward of 180,000-plus employees not to mention the servicemen and women of the U.S. Coast Guard and the Secret Service.

Never done this before, but BWAA-HAA-HAAA-HAAAA.....for about 5 minutes.....
sorry, I know, not a useful post...delete it if you must, but....BWAA-HAA-HAAA-HAAAA.....for another 5 minutes.....


wait, how many again??

BWAA-HAA-HAAA-HAAAA.....

seriously though...sorry for my post.

*snicker*
*snort*

ok, I'll leave.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by lacrimaererum

 

I wasn't going to watch the video until your reply.

Now I don't always agree with the OP here....often disagree in fact. However, it's in respect and I know him to source his stuff and put thought into his positions. It's almost weird to see an attack come on not only the OP of a thread...but the first reply in debate of it. So basically, everyone is wrong and these threads have no right to exist at all? I'm kinda lost by your issue......just what a solution would be?

DING! "If you don't like it then leave"? Good god, what kind of argument is THAT? Even _IF_ that weren't a ridiculous and and incredibly rude response, it STILL wouldn't make sense: we can't know if we "like" it until AFTER we've seen it. Heck, the OP couldn't even be arsed to describe the video's contents or even bother to post it directly inline.

Based on the single description (provided by another!) we have and the utterly childish response of the OP to the concept of "someone disagreeing with me!", I am out.

I don't see any revolution in the US. What I do see is a gradual slip into a fascist Walmartopia populated by drugged consumer zombies with men in black uniforms and Uzi's on every street corner and black armored vans everywhere.

Anyone want a piece of boiled frog?

reply to post by lacrimaererum

make some random rant about 'guns are great' and get a load of stars.

Because some guy who hasn't seen another guy in 3 years, could get his current ID....Righto!