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Keshe Plasma Generator ~ Breaking Laws of Physics ~ Infinite Energy New Video

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posted on Dec, 27 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
If you think you understand the theory of relativity...

It's quite enough that it has been supported by numerous experiments. Science isn't about complete and absolute understanding of everything, it's about theories and evidence that supports those theories.

Without accounting for relativity and quantum physics, we wouldn't be able to explore space, build computers, and do many other things that we start taking for granted in the modern world.

Are you a follower of the Electric Universe theory? If so, that explains your mindset.


It certainly does explain a WHOLE LOT about a theory that is embraced mostly by fanatics and the undereducated.

The Electric Universe Theory


The Electric Universe



The Electric Universe theory highlights the importance of electricity throughout the Universe. It is based on the recognition of existing natural electrical phenomena (eg. lightning, St Elmo's Fire), and the known properties of plasmas (ionized "gases") which make up 99.999% of the visible universe, and react strongly to electro-magnetic fields. Much of the material considered by the Electric Universe is peer-reviewed, but not all (see Speculative Theories, below).


The Electric Universe Theory Debunked


The Electric Universe Theory Debunked



What was this theory and where on earth did it come from? According to the website www.electricuniverse.info the “Electric Universe theory highlights the importance of electricity throughout the Universe. It is based on the recognition of existing natural electrical phenomena (eg. lightning, St Elmo’s Fire), and the known properties of plasmas (ionized “gases”) which make up 99.999% of the visible universe, and react strongly to electro-magnetic fields.” It goes on to state “Electricity is common throughout the universe, generated by all cosmic plasma as it moves through magnetic fields. Peer reviewed papers describe electricity in the Sun, and associated with the interplanetary medium (solar wind), planets and their satellites, comets, in interstellar space, other stars, and intergalactic space.” Well that sounds pretty convincing, doesn’t it?



The solar wind is caused by an electric field?



In physics an electric field applied to charged particles cause them to accelerate. The Electric universe theory says that the solar wind is the result of such a field, and the Sun is electric, not fusion based.

Maxwell’s theory of acceleration, however, talks about a time variable field, not a fixed one, and what’s more the solar wind contains both positive and negatively charged ions (protons and electrons mainly). An electric sun would be positively charged and all the negatively charged electrons would be attached to it – not be pushed out from the Sun on a solar wind. This fact proves the Sun is not electric.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 01:35 AM
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I would say your blog makes claims about neutrinos that main stre scientists only consider to be theory.

Positive and negative fields do exist, what do you think all these frequencies flying through the air are about? According to you link, this can't happen.

You might want to look into the nature of the northern lights.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Theoretical science has gone nowhere for the last hundred years, and mathatics has gone nowhere for the last 500 years.

Are you drunk?



Computers and the exploration of space has a great more reliance on the work of Tesla,

Well, they don't. However Tesla was a genius engineer, who's work was all based around an intuitive understanding of Maxwell's Equations. Which were the product of a theoretical physicist called James Clerk Maxwell.

Tesla, for all his brilliance, was an engineer, not a scientist. Engineers are people who take theoretical physics and turn it into practical inventions. Without Maxwell you have no Tesla. This pattern is repeated throughout modern history.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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Have any links that show Tesla based his work on Maxwell?

Or was it Franklin?



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by FatherLukeDuke
 

Have any links that show Tesla based his work on Maxwell?
Or was it Franklin?


It was definitely Maxwell.

Maxwell's work is predominantly based around magnetism and magnetic flux which is what Tesla's AC systems are based around.


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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Wrong.

Maxwells theorie held other engineers back. Tesla ignored Maxwells work, and changed the world.

Read Tesla's bio.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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Wrong.

Maxwells theorie held other engineers back. Tesla ignored Maxwells work, and changed the world.


I think that you are getting mixed up with the conflict between Edison and Tesla(Edison was a total prick btw and stole credit for the work of others). When Tesla was working for Edison's electric company, Edison promised to pay Tesla $50k to regulate his D.C. generators and then reneged on the verbal deal when Tesla fixed/redesigned the system originally built by Edison's engineers. Tesla quit working for Edison and started his own company.

At the height of the competition between Edison and Tesla, saw Edison standing in Times Square electrocuting cats and dogs with an AC generator based on Tesla's designs preaching to people to adopt his "safe" DC electricity system as opposed to using Tesla's "lethal" AC electricity.

Ironically, it is AC electricity that distributes power around the globe today. Tesla's biggest legacy will always be that which he thought the least of......wired distribution of AC.

Also, even more ironically, the whole reason we adopted AC for our power distribution involves minimising loss over long distances (loss, as in - the power leaking from the wires over their length). Exactly the opposite of what Tesla wanted to achieve with his wireless transmission of power.

Unfortunately for Tesla though - for all of the man's brilliance - he lacked business sense and was digging ditches for a living not long after his company went under.

Personally, I think that Tesla was suffering from various levels of poisoning due to the nature of the research he conducted over the years of his life. Approaching his middle years, he was already a veteran of research with a Crookes tube(and the like) and it is likely that Tesla had taken the first X-ray photograph. After Tesla's two year stint digging ditches, he was back at it, developing his tower to transmit power through the atmosphere. Tesla's tower was one massive ozone generator and the man spent much of his time up there slowly suffocating himself. This would explain too, why the man appeared to go a little crazy in his later life.



Read Tesla's bio.





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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Not only was Tesla cheated by Edison, he had an estimated 17 of his patents violated by Marconi in the "invention" of wireless radio. In other words, had Tesla pushed it in court, he would have been known as the inventor of radio instead of Marconi and just might not have died a pauper.

The man had an amazing mind but was obsessed with wireless transmission of power; not to be confused with radio transmission which used similar technology but in a different way. If you have seen pictures of his Wardencliffe tower then you would be looking at what could have been the precursor to HAARP in a miniaturized version.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Family time now, so short response. You are partially right.

Media made Einstein the darling. Mixed efforts on Edison.

Tesla was so far ahead of his time it is amazing, as was Franklin.

History, I love it.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by OccamAssassin
 


Wrong.

Maxwells theorie held other engineers back. Tesla ignored Maxwells work, and changed the world.

Read Tesla's bio.


Absolute nonsense. If you are working with electromagnetism, you are working with Maxwell's Equations. That's what engineers and scientists do now, and that's what they did in Tesla's day. From the wiki:



Maxwell's equations are a set of partial differential equations that, together with the Lorentz force law, form the foundation of classical electrodynamics, classical optics, and electric circuits. These fields in turn underlie modern electrical and communications technologies.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 03:01 PM
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Wiki is no better than a blog. Find a real source. While Maxwell came up with equations, Tesla made the technical leap that made it all happen. And Maxwell wasn't the first to study magnetic fields.

Exactly what did Maxwell ever invent? It is ridiculous to give Maxwell credit for Tesla's amazing innovations.

You are the one spouting absolute nonsense.
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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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If you have seen pictures of his Wardencliffe tower then you would be looking at what could have been the precursor to HAARP in a miniaturized version.
No. Wardenclyffe was nothing like HAARP and looked nothing like HAARP. It was a very large Tesla coil, not a phased array.

While Tesla's coils could transmit radio signals, he didn't understand that. He thought he was sending electrical signals through the earth. He actually didn't believe that radio waves could serve any usefull purpose, either as a means of power transmission (wrong) or as a means of communication (very wrong). The trouble is, he didn't really understand electromagnetic radiation.


The Hertz wave theory of wireless transmission may be kept up for a while, but I do not hesitate to say that in a short time it will be recognized as one of the most remarkable and inexplicable aberrations of the scientific mind which has ever been recorded in history.

www.tfcbooks.com...


Granted even that all difficulties were successfully overcome, the field of application was manifestly circumscribed. Heliographic signals had been flashed to a distance of 200 miles, but to produce Hertzian rays of such penetrating power as those of light appeared next to impossible, the frequencies obtainable through electrical discharges being necessarily of a much lower order. The rectilinear propagation would limit the action on the receiver to the extent of the horizon and entail interference of obstacles in a straight line joining the stations. The transmission would be subject to the caprices of the air and, chief of all drawbacks, the intensity of disturbances of this character would rapidly diminish with distance.
www.tfcbooks.com...



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Did you see this? www.scribd.com... from
www.abovetopsecret.com...

What do you think of that? What does this show about the nature of gravity?

Can you tell us the story of plasma being the source of gravity?


Plasma is claimed to be the source of gravity, basically explained in a nutshell.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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I dont know where you got the idea that you know what Tesla thought, but in reading the link you provided, I don't get that impression at all.

Obviously Tesla believed in wireless transmission, he invented it, he just didn't think Hertz concept of how it worked was correct. Tesla's understanding was probably better.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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Obviously Tesla believed in wireless transmission, he invented it, he just didn't think Hertz concept of how it worked was correct. Tesla's understanding was probably better.

Yes. He believed in the wireless transmission of electricity through the earth. A horribly inefficient method of transmitting power.

He did not believe that electromagnetic radiation (hertzian waves) would be useful for communications or power transmission. He did not understand electromagnetic radiation. His lack of understanding can be seen throughout his writing.
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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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He did not believe that electromagnetic radiation (hertzian waves) would be useful for communications or power transmission.


I've been wondering about this for awhile now. The RC boats? I'm missing something about this.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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The comments on the utube video explain how this aplies to gravity. I suggest you read that explanation. Then we could possibly kick the idea around a bit. It is not my theory, but I think it has some interesting points.

Being that the Sun is made of hydrogen, that hydrogen plays a part in creating this plasma makes complete sense.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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The patent really concerns the receiver and "servos" not the means of transmission of the signal, about which he is somewhat vague.


Having now described my invention, what I claim is—

1. The improvement in the art of controlling the movements and operation of a vessel or vehicle herein described, which consist in producing waves or disturbances which are conveyed to the vessel by the natural media, actuating thereby suitable apparatus on the vessel and effecting the control of the propelling-engine, the steering and other mechanism by the operation of the said apparatus, as set forth.

www.teslauniverse.com...

He does mention transmission "through the atmosphere" but it's not clear exactly what he means. His later writings about radio waves clearly indicate their practical limitations (to his mind).

We're going way off topic here though.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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I think Tesla understood electricity and magnetism far better than anyone. He might not have been able to express it in writing, but he certainly did in the lab.

And to this very day, use of the Earth in power transmission is critical to the process.

What makes more sense, the guy who created most of the technical innovations that we use today knew what he was doing and you don't understand what he writes, or you are right, and Tesla didn't understand what he was doing?

Are you familiar with the expression "arm chair quarterback."



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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I think Tesla understood electricity and magnetism far better than anyone. He might not have been able to express it in writing, but he certainly did in the lab.

A great inventor, no doubt about it. But electricity and magnetism are not the same thing as electromagentic radiation.


And to this very day, use of the Earth in power transmission is critical to the process.
That doesn't change the fact that Tesla was completely wrong about electromagnetic radiation.


Are you familiar with the expression "arm chair quarterback."
Yes. I don't see how it applies though. Perhaps "20/20 hindsight" would be better. We know a lot more about electromagnetic radiation now than anyone did in Tesla's day. We know he was wrong about it. We know it can be used for long distance communication. We know it can be used for power transmission. We know that Tesla was using it no matter how much he denied it.
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