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Originally posted by macman
People [will] commit violence regardless.
How about addressing the causes?
Not sure what you mean by the research comment. Perhaps as a foreigner I don't have a proper handle on the language. Are you inferring that I do not have the right to comment on an American issue?
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
Please, and I truly mean this, please pretty please with sugar on top, research what places these mass shootings are happening at.
Then kindly report back your findings, before yet another NON US Citizen goes on and on about how we as a nation need to conduct our OWN business.
Yes Yes!
Make an issue out of armed guards and the kids go home and play COD and Halo or go watch some shoot em up movies.
For crying out loud I know some people love to vilify gun owners, and the NRA, but damn this is getting asinine.
So VIDEO GAMES can be held responsible for gun violence (as the NRA has been pushing recently) - but not the GAMERS? Can we say "video games don't kill people, gamers (i.e. people) kill people.
Originally posted by michael1983l
Just playing Devils Advocate here, but what is to happen once this armed guard is enlisted at the school, what if he goes nuts? I mean he is already at the school and is already armed, standing around all day waiting for nothing to happen isn't exactly good for your mental state anyway. I'd say the armed guard is as likely to go nuts as is anybody.
Originally posted by links234
reply to post by MJZoo
If I've locked my doors and took the keys out I've done everything within reason to prevent someone from using my vehicle without my permission. It's unlikely that someone will be killed from my car being taken though, that's not what cars are used for.
If you leave your gun in your closet with the ammo next to it then you've done nothing to prevent someone from taking it, loading it and killing you or some one else with it. That's what guns are used for.
Originally posted by links234
So with that in mind, we should just allow firearms to be easily available to people and accessible to their associates? Most crimes committed by people are done by using someone else's gun. It's a rare case where the crime is committed by the person owning the gun.
Originally posted by links234
Most homicides in the US are committed with a gun. Are you honestly telling me that the homicide rate will stay the same if we were to eliminate guns because of knives and bombs?
Originally posted by links234
Holding the gun-owners responsible for their guns and the crimes they commit is a form of gun control and should be easily agreed upon.
Originally posted by links234
reply to post by neo96
It's not about what kills more people or how though, is it? It's about murder. The intent to take another's life. Guns in America make murder easier to accomplish. There are secondary and tertiary reasons for murder, sure. However, guns make murder easy.
You can't blame video games or movies because I don't see anywhere else in the world with the murder rate that we have. We'd be better off without guns in America.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Not sure what you mean by the research comment. Perhaps as a foreigner I don't have a proper handle on the language. Are you inferring that I do not have the right to comment on an American issue?
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
First off, I don't believe that you answered the question that I posed in my original post.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Secondly, your liberal gun laws tend to contribute to the proliferation of illegal firearms in Canada.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Finally...as I have stated on numerous occasions (ad nauseum I might add), this is an international forum. May I quote your Harry S. Truman in stating "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen"?
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
NRA Pipes Up Again
w ww.huffingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Wayne LaPierre, the head of the National Rifle Association, made a second effort at selling his views on the Newtown school shooting massacre to the public in a contentious appearance on "Meet the Press" on Sunday morning.
"If it's crazy to call for armed officers in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy," LaPierre said defiantly. "I think the American people think it's crazy not to do it. It's the one thing that would keep people safe."
Once again, this IS an international forum. In fact, one of the founding fathers...if I may be so bold...is a Brit. If you can't take an international response to an issue, I would suggest that you utilise a forum in which you can all sit around in a circle, nod, bob, and say 'ditto'. Otherwise...as my cop friend likes to say..."Suck it up, Buttercup!"
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Finally...as I have stated on numerous occasions (ad nauseum I might add), this is an international forum. May I quote your Harry S. Truman in stating "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen"?
That is very quaint.
I would suggest that for you in return.
Maybe take care of Canada first, before you go bitching about your neighbors INTERNAL issues.