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That is why the entire so-called "gun culture" has been so meticulously crafted to portray the simple ownership of a fire arm as the key to personal freedom and the a surefire last resort to guarantee justice. This notion is completely wrong and TPTB know it.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788
"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …" Samuel Adams quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"
"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." Richard Henry Lee American Statesman, 1788
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson Third President of the United States
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … " Thomas Jefferson letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776
"None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." Thomas Jefferson 1803
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson
"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation... Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." James Madison, Federalist Papers, #46 at 243-244
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person." James Madison, Proposed Amendments to the Constitution June 8, 1789
"Suppose that we let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal: still it would not be going to far to say that the State governments with the people at their side would be able to repel the danger...half a million citizens with arms in their hands" James Madison, The Federalist Papers
"A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country." James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
"Resistance to sudden violence, for the preservation not only of my person, my limbs and life, but of my property, is an indisputable right of nature which I have never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps, I could not surrender if I would. Nor is there anything in the common law of England ... inconsistent with that right." John Adams(1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President Source: BOSTON GAZETTE, September 5, 1763, The Works of John Adams, p.438 (Charles F. Adams ed., 1851)
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States." Noah Webster (1758-1843)
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by RobertAntonWeishaupt
Police yes. Military NO.
The school district in my city has ISD cops at every single school in the city and I personally dont have a problem with it (I figured this was the case everywhere)
I dont want to see the military guarding anything unless its on a military base.
Originally posted by RobertAntonWeishaupt
There is going to come a time in the next 25 years or so when the term "working class" is going to have new meaning. It will be the relatively small class of people that are allowed to continue in the current antiquated employment model in order to keep the world running for the people who most enjoy they fruits of that labor. Then there will be the millions of expendables, those who for whatever reason do not fit the profile to be allowed to "work".
Those with jobs and money will not rebel. The ruling class will not rebel. Something will need to be done about all those expendables, and the NRA has just thrown its support behind the apparatus to do so.
At least, that's my $.02
Originally posted by RobertAntonWeishaupt
reply to post by Juggernog
So far, the call has been for police, but I've already heard "armed personnel" creeping in to the conversation. Also, a lot of internet chatter, about what a great job it would be for retiring or non-active duty military personnel.
My concern is the normalizing of the police state. Teaching kids early that an armed government authority figure should be supervising your environment. Next steps: Armed checkpoints (already in place in some inner city schools), ID validation, continuous tracking and monitoring.