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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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When you were a kid you were made to go to Sunday school, they made you say prayers in school (do they still do that in Canada?) They made you sit in church, I hated church for being boring as a kid.
My Mom just believed it was the good thing to do.

They told you hell awaits those who don't believe.
That if you are willing to believe the unbelievable on faith alone,
you will get to praise god ...............f o r e v e r.................... up in heaven, with all the harp weilding weirdos and killers, the killers and liars and the cheats who did bad things, but believed in Jesus and were saved, and all the good honest people of reason are cooking their souls to a crisp with weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Present there also will be King David, gods right hand man killing machine, and Abraham, the psycho, who had audio hallucinations of god in his head telling him to kill his son.
Nice people.
Oh, and religious rednecks. And the gullible.

That's of course if heaven is real.

Sounds almost like a cult (it is) that you are afraid to leave or un-believe, and when you do, you think of the un-repairable heating problem down in hell and that if I am wrong, even if I can't believe it, that's where I will go, yes, forever, unlimited zero's on an infinate time span, no forgiveness, no mercy.
Shunned by god.

I struggled and tried to believe in god and now I realised what I have often thought, but ignored my true feelings, that I am just kidding myself, just like when I used to believe in Santa Clause and the Easter bunny, and yes, you too Tooth Fairy.
It was the hell part that really bugged me, why should I be afraid to question this religious non-truth?
I wish that I was NEVER introduced to religion, it's brainwash, it's a cult that punishes those who un-convert or don't believe, a CULT people.

I am glad there are people and resources out there for when I question my own non-faith. When I fall from the path to not-god, I can always count on a wealth of reason from the internet.


www.youtube.com...
This guy is really smart and makes a lot of sense, a lot of stuff to watch here.

A former cult victim

www.youtube.com...
These non-faith cartoons are great, if you must see only one, let it be 'High Stakes Intelligent Designing'.
So anyway, if sometimes you struggle with your own non-faith, write a post, or tell us all your path to non-devotion. Are you still religious but are doubting, are you influenced by the voice of reason and it is sounding reasonable to you?
At what point are you on the road to non-faith?

I am almost there, but I am still doing a bit of deprogramming, I never thought I would become a victim of a cult.
I will overcome.

Non-amen
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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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I never went to church..
I found God.
The End.

So I guess the opposite to you?
It's all good. It really is.
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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Wait a minute, wait a minute! Are you saying you don't believe that all of the dead saints crawled out of their graves at the time of Jesus being crucified, and roamed the city? You know, visiting friends and family and doing tricks like drinking wine and letting it spill out of their rotted stomachs. How can you not believe that???



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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I was forced to go to church when I was a kid.

But I'm pretty sure it was just because my folks wanted us out of their hair for a few hours on the weekend. Once we were old enough to decide whether or not we continued going, we all dropped that nonsense like a bad habit.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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If the delusion makes you happy, all the power to you.
Good luck with that.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by Toadmund
reply to post by Dustytoad
 


If the delusion makes you happy, all the power to you.
Good luck with that.


I don't live in delusion but judging others doesn't make you happy..
Have fun with that.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by Toadmund
 


Wait a minute, wait a minute! Are you saying you don't believe that all of the dead saints crawled out of their graves at the time of Jesus being crucified, and roamed the city? You know, visiting friends and family and doing tricks like drinking wine and letting it spill out of their rotted stomachs. How can you not believe that???

Hmmm, I'll have to brush up on those non-facts.
But what I do know is that Jesus (the man!) was not in the tomb when they checked, therefore he must have rose and went to heaven!
Halleluja!



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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Great thread OP, I wish more people were like you, unfortunately delusion is a hard thing to break out of.


Originally posted by Dustytoad
reply to post by Toadmund
 


I never went to church..
I found God.
The End.

So I guess the opposite to you?
It's all good. It really is.
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You mean you went to church and found that you're very gullible.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by SpearMint


You mean you went to church and found that you're very gullible.


I never went to church.. I don't read the Bible.. I know the word God is a hard word on your delicate senses..

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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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You are in the wrong thread.
I have a right to call you delusional. (as do you to me in pro-religious threads)

If you stand in front of thieves, will you not get robbed?
(I said that like it came from jesus!)

What did you expect, this is a non-faith thread.

Just jiven ya'
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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Toadmund
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You are in the wrong thread.
I have a right to call you delusional. (as do you to me in pro-religious threads)

If you stand in front of thieves, will you not get robbed!
(I said that like it came from jesus!)

What did you expect, this is a non-faith thread.

Just jiven ya'


I can speak as I wish, and I have no need to call you delusional ever..

That is only your need towards me. I am not religious.
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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Dustytoad

Originally posted by SpearMint


You mean you went to church and found that you're very gullible.


I never went to church.. I don't read the Bible.. I know the word God is a hard word on your delicate senses..

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Oh, I misread that first line...



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Yup i was forced to go,but i never had the problem of having it
linger as i never bought it,to top it off when i was about 10 i vividly
remember my mothers preacher back away from me real quick
when they came in to do their laying on of hands (i was sick)
having a preacher look scared really kinda did it...



not sure but i was told that 'hell+the devil' was made up by
christianity and before that bad stuff was just referred to
as 'sh1t happens'

is this true??



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Dustytoad


I never went to church.. I don't read the Bible.. I know the word God is a hard word on your delicate senses..


You didn't read it?!
Well no wonder you and millions of other christians have never read it either believe, while atheists actually are more likely to have read it.

Read, and disbelieve.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Toadmund

Originally posted by Dustytoad


I never went to church.. I don't read the Bible.. I know the word God is a hard word on your delicate senses..


You didn't read it?!
Well no wonder you and millions of other christians have never read it either believe, while atheists actually are more likely to have read it.

Read, and disbelieve.


I'm NOT christian silly. I came to this thread to test your new found freedom.
You are not free because you are threatened by mere words.
I could use the word Force in place of God if that would help your mind cope with your past transgressions.

If you could have not judged you would have looked better to me than christians do, but you have proven a jump from one faith to another.

Skip religion man it's mind control I agree with you.
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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Nice thread OP. "To Those Struggling with their Non-Faith"


What can I say. Preach it brother! Preach the non-word! Amen-Ra...er...uhm...Amen.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by Klassified
Nice thread OP. "To Those Struggling with their Non-Faith"


What can I say. Preach it brother! Preach the non-word! Amen-Ra...er...uhm...Amen.


haha I came in and was going to star and flag the thread, but alas he has found faith in non faith..
I thought someone was becoming free.

Like your amen ra reference. Star for that.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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No, i am not threatened at all.
I find this fun.

I like these kinds of debates.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Toadmund
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No, i am not threatened at all.
I find this fun.

I like these kinds of debates.


I have not been debating and neither have you,
and you also told me that this was the wrong thread to post in.
This means you are lying now.


But as long as you are having fun, I am too. I enjoy these kinds of talks if they go into deeper directions without hurting anybodies feelings too much.
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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Come on guys, don't let a little misunderstanding get in the way of your faith or non-faith.





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