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Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NavyDoc
I think if a person was irresponsible in the storage of a firearm and it was used in a crime then the person who didn't properly secure it should be punished. I truly get that criminals can and will do whatever to get what they want, but if you lock up your guns, they are far less likely to fall into the hands of the criminal than if you leave them on the friggin kitchen table. If your guns are locked up, then you did your part, and shouldn't be punished. I wonder, do you folks purposely ignore that parts that are common sense only to glorify your points?
How about we just not worry about gun safety or safe gun storage since it too much of an expense and bother.
Originally posted by GunzCoty
reply to post by network dude
So you're saying other states should use Connecticut laws?
I'm ok with that, let me add a few.
#1 A permit should be good in every state.
#2 When you sell a firearm to another private citizen, the sale should be handled via a FFL dealer (at a cost of no more than $20)
#3 Any person looking to buy a firearm at a gun show must have a permit (for pistols) and/or a legal copy of their background checks, no older than 1 year (or 6 months)
What do you think?
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NavyDoc
I think if a person was irresponsible in the storage of a firearm and it was used in a crime then the person who didn't properly secure it should be punished. I truly get that criminals can and will do whatever to get what they want, but if you lock up your guns, they are far less likely to fall into the hands of the criminal than if you leave them on the friggin kitchen table. If your guns are locked up, then you did your part, and shouldn't be punished. I wonder, do you folks purposely ignore that parts that are common sense only to glorify your points?
How about we just not worry about gun safety or safe gun storage since it too much of an expense and bother.
Originally posted by GunzCoty
reply to post by network dude
So you're saying other states should use Connecticut laws?
I'm ok with that, let me add a few.
#1 A permit should be good in every state.
#2 When you sell a firearm to another private citizen, the sale should be handled via a FFL dealer (at a cost of no more than $20)
#3 Any person looking to buy a firearm at a gun show must have a permit (for pistols) and/or a legal copy of their background checks, no older than 1 year (or 6 months)
What do you think?
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NavyDoc
The one's I was trying to prevent from getting the weapons are the kids who live in the house already, or neighbors. just like in the case of the latest tragedy. If the guns were in a safe locked with a combination that the kid didn't know, then he would have had to find his weapons elsewhere. Instead, they were apparently easily accessible.
I know that nothing will stop a determined nut job. This kid would have used a base ball bat if he could find the guns. But he did find the guns and now every liberal in the world is foaming at the mouth about "them there gun nuts."
If I could do something that would guarantee this type of thing would never ever happen again, I would. But it will. No matter what we do. So all I can suggest is that we police ourselves a bit better. Instead of tearing my ideas apart, which is fine BTW, it's a discussion, how about you offer some constructive ideas? Or do you like the idea of just doing nothing as it seems to be working flucking great so far?
Originally posted by Romanian
Hm, not American so I should not mix in your business, however I wanted to highlight that the majority of the mass killing are "performed" by people under the influence of drugs like antidepressants ( see the side effects of Prozac for ex ). maybe any effort of limiting gun ownership should only apply to households under such medications? Sure big pharma will not be happy as people could start choosing guns over medication?
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Honor93
do you teach kids how to ride a horse before they mount one ?
some do, some don't ... what makes guns so different ?
You can fall off a horse and live, being shot tends to not be so forgiving.
I wonder, do you folks purposely ignore that parts that are common sense only to glorify your points?
Originally posted by GunzCoty
reply to post by network dude
So you're saying other states should use Connecticut laws?
I'm ok with that, let me add a few.
#1 A permit should be good in every state.
#2 When you sell a firearm to another private citizen, the sale should be handled via a FFL dealer (at a cost of no more than $20)
#3 Any person looking to buy a firearm at a gun show must have a permit (for pistols) and/or a legal copy of their background checks, no older than 1 year (or 6 months)
What do you think?
Originally posted by MikeNice81
So, you cable locked your gun and left it out, but put your ammo in a $60 filing cabinet? Basically you did the bare minimum to comply with NC safe storage laws. Now you demand that others do more in order to get a gun.
Originally posted by JIMC5499
I have no problem with the training of gun owners, provided that the training becomes a mandatory part of our educational system. Say at about the 10th grade level and that passing it is a requirement for graduation. You could bring back a real Civics class and make it part of that.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Several answers have been proposed. The gun free zones are nonsense. Notice that almost every spree shooting in the last few decades have been in gun free zones? Even the Aurora shooter avoided several theatres closer to his home to seek out the one that banned CCW as policy. I've a friend who is a Marine Corps Vet, an elementary school principle, and a CCW licensee. Why this man can carry a firearm in defense everywhere he goes except for work makes no rational sense at all.
Me too, an I'm not saying you would have to register the gun, just allow the FFL to do the background check to help keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.
Being totally honest, I think I like the idea of being able to purchase a weapon that is off the books so to speak.
No, it is that way in CT, so I'm saying (other than the worthless assault weapons ban) that I would be ok with it. I think waiting 2 weeks to get a rifle without a hunting permit, or a pistol permit is fine. And I think needing a permit to carry is ok as well. I am ok with the choice to carry concealed, or open.
rather all states conform to the 2nd, you'd prefer all states conform to the one state that hosted one of the worst tragedies this decade AND modify them ??