Originally posted by jhill76
No, there was some who couldn't make a choice when it was asked of them, they are bound to neutral ground. What happened in the beginning is not fully stated in the Word, and for good reason. It has no bearing on ones life down here, since the ones bound to common ground do not come here.

Evidence? You can't simply claim that is true, with nothing to back your statement. You keep making these claims, and acting as though somehow you can know things the rest of us can't. How, exactly, do you comne by this information? No evasions; simple honest answer.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
One from God would not need someone to use mediation, trances, OBEs, or whatever to communicate.

Originally posted by jhill76
This was not encouraged anywhere in this thread. This holds true.

edit on 2-1-2013 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)

No, you talk about that in other threads, describing how one can stare at a wall, that they will shake, and then they can contact some entity. So, my statement is accurate.

So, when do we get to hear how you come by this information? How do you know these methods are good, that you present? Now is the time to support your OP.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Discernment is a gift, and some can tell just from that, but you would want to be sure you had it before just assuming you could. If someone had discernment, they would not be approaching some evil spirit in the first place (unless in case of a possession or something similar).

It's true that the evil ones can lie. In fact, it is expected. That is what they do.

I usually can gather a lot of information just from discernment. I was merely speaking in conjecture due to the information presented by jhill76. I don't approach malevolent spirits just for kicks, since I actually can sense all kinds & types. None of what has been said was done out of lack of knowledge or experience.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
So, when do we get to hear how you come by this information? How do you know these methods are good, that you present? Now is the time to support your OP.

Judging by the amount of time that has passed by, i guess that his source is fallen or worse; imaginary.

i might be able to add some info.

One logical way to see which side a neutral entity is on is to ask about sacred information.

If the entity willingly gives the information that will lead to a new world Utopia like it was on Mars and Atlantis, then its obvious the entity is against YHWH and wants man to build heaven on Earth.

If the entity says 'that information is sacred and will lead to the destruction of this world' a.k.a Judgement Day, then the entity is good.

Here is an example.
i once asked a repented fallen watcher why are many people seeing numerological numbers and codes ?

His response was

numbers in application to acoustics and geometry allow non mechanical, physical flight. that is levitation.

flight as a non physical state, being spirit is natural. the effect of ley lines is not necessary but following them as visual indicators is possible. ley lines provide anchor points, intersections provide soft spots where matter and spirit are closest.

possible negative entity possession but possibly only communication. all that is sure is that you receive information from a knowledge base beyond your own. what is probable is a temptation to seek the secrets. be wary of the worthless mystery.

Note the last bit underlined.

Originally posted by Rapha

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
So, when do we get to hear how you come by this information? How do you know these methods are good, that you present? Now is the time to support your OP.

Judging by the amount of time that has passed by, i guess that his source is fallen or worse; imaginary.

i might be able to add some info.

One logical way to see which side a neutral entity is on is to ask about sacred information.

If the entity willingly gives the information that will lead to a new world Utopia like it was on Mars and Atlantis, then its obvious the entity is against YHWH and wants man to build heaven on Earth.

If the entity says 'that information is sacred and will lead to the destruction of this world' a.k.a Judgement Day, then the entity is good.

Here is an example.
i once asked a repented fallen watcher why are many people seeing numerological numbers and codes ?

His response was

numbers in application to acoustics and geometry allow non mechanical, physical flight. that is levitation.

flight as a non physical state, being spirit is natural. the effect of ley lines is not necessary but following them as visual indicators is possible. ley lines provide anchor points, intersections provide soft spots where matter and spirit are closest.

possible negative entity possession but possibly only communication. all that is sure is that you receive information from a knowledge base beyond your own. what is probable is a temptation to seek the secrets. be wary of the worthless mystery.

Note the last bit underlined.

I too have spoken to a shaman who mentioned that his(the OP's) source is either fallen or non-existent. It is funny that you say the same thing almost word for word. Are you allowed to tell more about a fallen-repentant? How can you tell if they are truly repentant or not. PM me if you wish.

Originally posted by CrimsonKnight13
I usually can gather a lot of information just from discernment. I was merely speaking in conjecture due to the information presented by jhill76. I don't approach malevolent spirits just for kicks, since I actually can sense all kinds & types. None of what has been said was done out of lack of knowledge or experience.

That's good to know. Still pays to be cautious. My questions are more for him, regarding where he claims to get his information, and he seems unwilling to offer any answer.