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Originally posted by CrimsonKnight13
Excellent thread. The discussion thus far has been very informative.
To all who are knowledgeable...
I understand that one can tests spirits with the universal question. How does one approach them when the Holy Spirit gifts a person with powerful discernment that gives a specific feeling or image regarding alignment & other attributes?
Originally posted by Jameliel
You just wrote that the Holy Spirit itself gifts that person with a powerful discernment. Thus it seems you would approach them with the feeling the Holy Spirit gave you. Call them out on the truth. And that universal test question is a load of bs. Spirits can and will straight up lie.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by WhoKnows100
Your summary holds true for those whom are here in the physical, those spirits yes. My OP is for those who go outside of the physical, mainly to common ground, where the ones who cannot come into the physical reside. Mainly where others go to astral project. I should have made that clear in the OP.
This was not detailed in the word, because back at that time, many were not leaving the body as much as others are today.
On top of that, below is more bold today, than they are from before.
I have already pointed out to you that such practices are NOT condoned in the Bible. It's not accurate to claim no one tried that then. Such things are considered dangerous, and wrong. To encourage people to talk to spirits in such ways is to encourage them to do what God tells them not to do. One could question the motive for such a thing.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
I have already pointed out to you that such practices are NOT condoned in the Bible. It's not accurate to claim no one tried that then. Such things are considered dangerous, and wrong. To encourage people to talk to spirits in such ways is to encourage them to do what God tells them not to do. One could question the motive for such a thing.
The OP was not directed to the religious, nor does the OP encourage others to speak. As many already speak on their own, this was for them.edit on 2-1-2013 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
Forum rules indicate anyone may speak. Be that as it may, nowhere does the OP state "This is for those not religious".
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
I have already pointed out to you that such practices are NOT condoned in the Bible. It's not accurate to claim no one tried that then. Such things are considered dangerous, and wrong. To encourage people to talk to spirits in such ways is to encourage them to do what God tells them not to do. One could question the motive for such a thing.
The OP was not directed to the religious, nor does the OP encourage others to speak. As many already speak on their own, this was for them.edit on 2-1-2013 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Jameliel
Forum rules indicate anyone may speak. Be that as it may, nowhere does the OP state "This is for those not religious".
You must follow the conversation. The other poster was referring to speaking to spirits, not speaking as in a reply.
By posting a thread, you do, in fact, encourage people to speak, because that's what a thread is for. If you want to decide who can and can't post, and ignore anyone that disagrees with you, then I would put forth that you are not sure of your position. Religious or not, contacting spirits of unknown motivations is dangerous. Try addressing that. Your thread is supposed to be about that very problem - dangerous spirits.
To encourage people to talk to spirits in such ways is to encourage them to do what God tells them not to do. One could question the motive for such a thing.
Originally posted by Jameliel
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Jameliel
Forum rules indicate anyone may speak. Be that as it may, nowhere does the OP state "This is for those not religious".
You must follow the conversation. The other poster was referring to speaking to spirits, not speaking as in a reply.
I have followed all conversations well. There is no error to what I have posted here.
To encourage people to talk to spirits in such ways is to encourage them to do what God tells them not to do. One could question the motive for such a thing.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
reply to post by jhill76
How about you address the many questions people out to you, and stop offering all the evasive responses?
I commented that talking to spirits is dangerous. Comment on that. Explain how you feel it would not be dangerous to talk to some entity that one cannot positively identify.
If the Spirit confirms it is from below, you avoid. There is nothing good that can be gained from continuing speech with one from below.
Originally posted by jhill76
Originally posted by Jameliel
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Jameliel
Forum rules indicate anyone may speak. Be that as it may, nowhere does the OP state "This is for those not religious".
You must follow the conversation. The other poster was referring to speaking to spirits, not speaking as in a reply.
I have followed all conversations well. There is no error to what I have posted here.
The other poster posted this:
To encourage people to talk to spirits in such ways is to encourage them to do what God tells them not to do. One could question the motive for such a thing.
I replied, in kind.
Originally posted by jhill76
Originally posted by Jameliel
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Jameliel
Forum rules indicate anyone may speak. Be that as it may, nowhere does the OP state "This is for those not religious".
You must follow the conversation. The other poster was referring to speaking to spirits, not speaking as in a reply.
I have followed all conversations well. There is no error to what I have posted here.
The other poster posted this:
To encourage people to talk to spirits in such ways is to encourage them to do what God tells them not to do. One could question the motive for such a thing.
I replied, in kind.
Forum rules indicate anyone may speak.
Originally posted by jhill76
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
reply to post by jhill76
How about you address the many questions people out to you, and stop offering all the evasive responses?
I commented that talking to spirits is dangerous. Comment on that. Explain how you feel it would not be dangerous to talk to some entity that one cannot positively identify.
This was addressed page 3.
If the Spirit confirms it is from below, you avoid. There is nothing good that can be gained from continuing speech with one from below.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Jameliel
You assumed I was restricting the other poster from speaking, my intent and my response was directed towards the poster talking about speaking to spirits, not speaking in this forum. You words were clear.
The point is, you cannot know, in some sort of trance state, where one is from. Angels don't communicate with people through out of body experiences. There are only the two types. No neutral ground. They either stayed with God, or they revolted with Satan and fell. One from God would not need someone to use mediation, trances, OBEs, or whatever to communicate. They would be completely straight forward. Only an evil one would want such methods.
One from God would not need someone to use mediation, trances, OBEs, or whatever to communicate.