Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by WhoKnows100
If you followed more of this thread, you would have known that yes, they will say yes, but not state the entire phrase as it is required of them to
I am not mistaken in what is. You have quoted Paul and a blog on what goes on behind the scenes. Those are not authoritative sources.
Since you reject an excellent summary of the meaning of "to confess", and half of the New Testament (the epistles of Paul), perhaps some other
quotes will help you to understand what I was addressing in your statements.
There are a few ways to tell if the spirit is of good, or is of bad.
If you can only hear them:
- I would say ask of the universal test question, that all are bound to follow, but said spirit may be neutral and could possibly answer that question
correct, and could mislead you.
That is the universal test question I spoke of in the OP, but if they are neutral they can answer that question correctly, and still deceive,
depending on what side they are leaning towards.
The "universal test question" can be answered affirmatively by ANY 'entity' or thought in the mind. This is the part that I was addressing,
apologies if it wasn't clear. In your above statements you state that only 'neutral entities' can answer the 'test question' and still be
deceivers. What I was attempting to show is that ALL of the voices and apparitions that people may experience can deceive - what you deem as good,
neutral and bad. In which case, the 'test question' is useless for those not grounded in Truth, the Word, because they do understand that that
question hangs on more than simply stating that Jesus came in the flesh.
This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of
God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother. 1 John 3:10
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the
truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." John 8:44
One is either a man or beast - a child of God or a child of the 'devil'.
You my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, says the Lord Yahweh. Ezekiel 34:31
An angel of the Lord would obey God, do right, speak to the Law and the Prophets, direct worship to God and speak the same gospel as we received.
Therefore, if you or I solely rely on that 'test question', yet do not realise that "confessing" means ALL of the above, then we can be
Ask of the spirit something about self. Not an event, as many spirits watch all, but ask something of the mind, the way you think, or why you
think a certain way. Only above, those of light, can answer these questions properly. Below, or the neutral ones would not have access to this
information, unless you are of below.
But turning round and seeing His disciples, He rebuked Peter. "Get behind me, Adversary," He said, "for your thoughts are not God's thoughts,
but men's." Mark 8:33
So if Peter had the thoughts of 'Satan', which Jesus clearly identifies as "of men", asking an 'entity' something about our MIND is the last
thing we want to do, isn't it? Every battle is internal, and He came to give us the way to overcome our human nature, the human condition which
either strives to exalt ourselves (the created) as god or The Creator as God.
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Sin. He didn't come to destroy a "fallen angel" but the human nature that keeps us locked in a life
of sin which wars against us and keeps us separated from His Father. Those words spoken by Peter, were thoughts of man
, not thoughts of God.