Lefties went wild when that was stated by Cheney..........problem is, he was right. Law is just what will be enforced by government. Think about it, you have law at the federal level that requires the federal government to defend marriage between a man and a woman........passed by Clinton, also, the welfare law passed by Clinton............also not enforced by Obama.

The Constitution means NOTHING, without the people to enforce it. Funny how we have Supreme Court Justices that actually state that Constitutions of other countries are what new countries should emulate. We get new elected officials that break the law, they have still not passed a budget in over 4 years, yet they are not prosecuted for the crime.

Jon Corzine STEALS 1.6 Billion dollars and is not prosecuted. He states in his congressional testimony that he NEVER authorized the theft, yet one week later a memo is uncovered that proves he did authorize the theft.............yet no prosecution for perjury.

We in the US of A no longer live in a law and order society, we live in an anarchy or a feudal system, where certain people are held to law and others are not.

Oh well, Senator Sessions was correct, since the government cannot and WILL NOT follow the law about budgets, I therefore will not be sending them any of my labor. We have law as society so that things are fair, when government does not and will not follow the laws they pass, we as citizens have the right, neigh the DUTY to not comply.

They are right, it is just a God Damned Piece of Paper, since it is and all law based upon such, I will no longer comply to their GOD DAMNED LAWS!

the only problem with that is since you are not a billion and are a nobody if the gov finds out you are doing something "illegal" then yes you will go to jail, piece of paper or not.. Good luck, dont get caught, its not a crime unless someone catches you

It stops being more than a simple piece of paper only when we choose to make it nothing more than old paper for the meaning it holds and the values it displays to us.

When that day comes...I don't know what my own future plans may be. Perhaps...I'm hoping time has passed and I've reached a level of freedom from commitments here to leave the U.S.. Costa Rica? Belize? I've certainly looked at a few places that are Rabbit friendly and don't cook critters like me for a stew to say welcome or something.

It's a sad sad day,...and among the last of our nation ..as we've known it anyway.... when a thread like this is not only timely but is making solid points. As much as I want to scream how you're WRONG!! .....I just can't...because you're right and it kills me as an American to have to say it right now. (heavy sigh)

Merry friggen Xmas and a Happy New Year..huh? Bah Humbug.

Originally posted by LIGHTvsDARK
Lefties went wild when that was stated by Cheney..........problem is, he was right. Law is just what will be enforced by government. ....

They are right, it is just a God Damned Piece of Paper, since it is and all law based upon such, I will no longer comply to their GOD DAMNED LAWS!

Yes, you will. You misunderstand. The government does enforce some laws and does not enforce others. You will pay your taxes because that is a law they enforce. You really don't have the option. Sucks, but true. Try it and find out.

ATS does not like me using my own name. Senator John Sessions said the exact same thing on the floor of the Senate. "If the US Federal government will not pass a budget that is mandated by our laws, why then should the US taxpayer send the Federal government mandated taxes." Parphrased

By the way, I already owe money to the IRS and the will NEVER get a dime. Heck, the US government loves the illegal aliens not paying taxation, why would they care about little ol me? I welcome them to come and collect, I would LOVE to find my day in court, unless of course they use the NDAA.............of course I wonder, will the lefties back me, they always talk about not complying with laws that you do not agree with.

We shall see, the reason that Greece has gone up in smoke, in reality a major cause is because of tax dereliction. There is a point folks when taxation at reasonable amounts is the answer. Federal taxation is not the only tax jurisdiction there is, there is also state, county and city. It is not only income, there is also property, sales, sin, licensing, registration, etc, et al.

By the way, the lefties also known as statists should love my stand. Mao was correct, all political power comes from the barrel of a gun..................use that gun, you think you are the only ones with one?

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
It stops being more than a simple piece of paper only when we choose to make it nothing more than old paper for the meaning it holds and the values it displays to us.

Spot on!



Its still means something to me, regardless if others have given up on it.........

It is a GOD DAMNED PIECE OF PAPER!

Let me reiterate this, the Democrats and the Republicans no longer follow the law! Where is the prosecution for running guns to the Mexican Drug Cartels? Hell, they prosecuted North for running guns to rebels in South America!

Where is the prosecution of Jon Corzine for perjury, he specifically stated that he DID NOT AUTHORIZE IT, yet one week later a memo was uncovered exposing that he did.

Where is the prosecution should be the beginning of half the articles on ATS yet...........

Oh noes, the government may come and get me.........oh noes........I am just a frightened little child. WHO CARES! Think about it, are you a prisoner in your own mind or a prisoner in a jail of the government's twisted plan. Why is it that probation and social workers are a HUGE part of our society? We live in a society where a huge component of it should be locked away or dare I say.................exterminated. Oooooh, is that going too far?

I agree with the lefties on the non victim component of our prison society, those where there are no victims should NEVER be put in prison. If there is NO VICTIM, there is no crime. If someone hurts themselves, it is NONE of our business. I deviate from their argument when they say we should help them though. Hell, we should help them, give them as many drugs as they want. Give the coc aine addict a pound, that would solve the problem right quick don't you think?

My God, we have to realize that society needs to quit addressing the problems of those that cannot be solved and address those issues that can.

Every great civilization that ever existed has eventually fallen. Whether it be 3500 years or 350 years. .

Fact : It will fall. In the modern age the likelihood of longevity is reduced.

Change happens. Get over it and find something bigger than a constitution to hang you life on.

Originally posted by LIGHTvsDARK
By the way, I already owe money to the IRS and the will NEVER get a dime. Heck, the US government loves the illegal aliens not paying taxation, why would they care about little ol me?

That's kind of the point. You don't have enough to be worth going after. The more you have, the more skin you have in the game and the more you have to lose. Indeed, that's one of the issues. Why should the 47% who don't pay taxes anyway worry about paying taxes? They get a free ride. The problem is that the reest of us have to pay twice as much just to carry the freeloaders, who, of course, want more, though they don;t want to actually work for it.

Sorry if I did not address your points folks. I do not want to get in any arguments this weekend, I just wanted to get some viewpoints on this tangent. I appreciate everyone's comments and thank you for your attribution.

I love coming back to ATS to get your viewpoints, they are usually less restricted then the usual media outlets.

By the way, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Ooooops, was that politically incorrect? Should I include kwanzaa, etc, etc, etc? You know that last is a troll right?

Everyone pays taxes whether you file or not-

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Tangible Taxes
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax


They actually come out on top me not filing so I am doing more than my fair share.