2012+ The End Is Very Near - The God(s) Are Returning

Believe me or not, several years ago I read the book of Revelations for the first time and understood it completely. All I'm saying about myself is that I'm a scientist and absolutely need proof to validate what I thought I understood, so I researched it and found enough proof to satisfy myself that I am correct. The proof is very controversial, so some parts I will not mention.

The book is NOT an interpretation from our perspective, but interpretations from John of Patmos' perspective of literal things. The book is literal. I understood how it matched to historical events. For awhile I had to stop reading it because I couldn't believe what I was reading. It simply overwhelmed me, but after forcing myself to read the whole book and write a chronological order of events, dates and people, I turned my focus to the little material from the Mayan culture and their calendar and prophecies. The two converged on the number 144,000 = 1 x B'ak'tun in Mayan long count.

The first part of Revelations is an account of mans history on this planet marked in writing by large events and important people, the 4 horsemen (rulers). The horse color is key for matching these rulers historically. Then there is the account of a prehistory of man on how Satan was cast down to Earth (the story of The Woman). His time on Earth was short, thousands of years for us. Short because God will eventually deal with them. This is a prison planet (ironic since I initially thought this old notion was crazy). Satan angry waged war against the Woman's offspring (man). To simplify, a ruler of man was born by a human woman in the heavens (space) and protected by God and his angels. The Dragon was angry prior to this event, but focused on it. There was a massive war in the heavens (space). A space war; a rebellion. The final part of the book is return of God(s) and his angels ~ an ancient, super advanced and evolved "alien" race; presumably one of many. Upon his return, the Dragon and his followers will mount a resistance again them. They will convince the people of the world that these returning "aliens" are evil and bent on our destruction. They are not evil, but they are bent on destroying the evilness in their creation (man) and its source (the Dragon and other factors). I suspect the "Dragon" has constraints on him and on his power, but he can use the power of suggestion and his knowledge to garner human support. He is truly insidious and a great liar, and focuses on followers that are easily suggestible ~ the ignorant.

Science and critical thinkers are not the Dragon's friends, but given enough lies and false information, scientists too can be fooled and bought. If you are a scientist, don't be fooled. Look at all the information, be critical, question the actions of you superiors or clients, but don't deny for denying sake only. Try to validate, because it is in the process of validation that the truth is revealed, after which it can be denied if found false. Ok enough with that.

We are at a convergence of technology advancement and ignorance. We are ignorant and destructive and some of us are truly evil (no empathy at all). From this perspective, we cannot be permitted to go into space spreading this disease. This illness is genetic and perpetuated by breeding. The experiment of the Earth is an evolutionary one. We are here to learn to truly be good (genetically through many generations of learning) and we are being tested, but all tests must come to an end.

The tough times are yet to come. The two witnesses are dead. This I've confirmed with ~90% satisfaction. Next is increased war and destruction, return of the angels (gods) and man's war against them lead by Dragon/Satan who is amongst us now. The true doomsday, or best stated Apocalypse, is still to come. December 21, 2012 was only an important marker in time, the start of the end. 13 x144,000 days is the end of a long cycle where the Gods return. 144,000 in Revelations was the rapture where angels take good Christians to heaven and God comes down to Earth, and the Hopi have only one last prophecy left (the Blue star). There is about a 50 to 100 year interval between the Hopi prophecies. It is time for the last one. The number 144,000 was misinterpreted by John of Patmos as the angel knew he knew nothing of the Mayan calendar. It was meant for us here and now when man had advanced themselves to a level of understanding and knowledge to start matching the disparaging details.

From my written timeline, the next 10 years is the time for the Apocalypse. I am very certain of this. Be weary of who the enemy truly is, for the Dragon is well disguised ~ don't simply believe the media and follow blindly. Question everything, but question before committing to ill thought actions. Avoid violence at all cost!! Find solid proof of the negative factors running our world and against human life. Follow the money and death, and remember the true evil is not in the public eye, but the result of their actions are.

great so for the next 10 years every day could be the apocalypse?

You know.. very rarely do a scientist of any kind refer to themselves as a "scientist"

They'd be a tad bit more specific.

"Astrophysicist"
"Paleontologist"
"Biologist"
"Chemist"
"Bio-Chemist"
ETC.

In any case. Let them come. If they get stuck tell them to call AAA.

reply to post by CantSay


Wow that didnt take long did it. The day passes and now we have this extension for doom presented to us. I knew it. You guys just dont know when to let something rest.
You claim to be a scientist and yet you find valid information in a book written by sheep hearders living in the desert two thousand years ago. What kind of scientist are you. What is your profession? What do you do ?

Originally posted by MrRottenTreats
great so for the next 10 years every day could be the apocalypse?

The desperation is ripe these days. HUH ? Cant accept that the whole this was a scam pulled by Terrance McKenna and his ilk.

Who were the 2 witnesses? Can you give us more info on who you believe they were?

yet more scare tactics by people wanting others to believe such BS. Think the part about being a scientist yourself without clarification of what your specialist field is, is just a ploy to get us to think that there is more truth to your post!

the day has come and gone without anything life changing happening! just wondered how long it would take for someone else to bring up apocalyptic nonsense!!

its not going to happen

Yeah, the Revelations, Scientist , Mayan calendar, connect the dots seems a little weird. There's a lot of new age dogma in that post. I wish they would just give up, Its over and they can't stand it.

reply to post by CantSay


Hmm, I take The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John literally and have not yet seen ANY of the events described in it.

You say that the two witnesses are dead but I don't seem to know who they are, nor do I see everyone in the world giving gifts to each other and saying how happy they are that they are dead and that all the plagues they brought down have stopped.

Literal means literal, not just another reinterpretation.

And what is your scientific field? (Mine is astrophysics with specific interest in cosmological theories and space-time).

reply to post by CantSay


That's a nice story. It could fit.. How come you left out all of the proof?
It seemed like you were going to walk us through it, but then you just stated a conclusion.. Didn't explain the 144,000 thing very well.. For those who havn't read the texts mentioned there is nothing here.

reply to post by dcmb1409

Yeah, the Revelations, Scientist , Mayan calendar, connect the dots seems a little weird. There's a lot of new age dogma in that post. I wish they would just give up, Its over and they can't stand it.

Don't lump us in with this crap, I didn't even read the whole thing. Just a dozen lines or so were enough for me. How about you grow up and stop with the "Blame Game" and accept that not every nutjob has something to do with this ineptly labeled "New Age" stuff.

That sound good to you? Maybe sound a little educated? Yeah? Cool.

reply to post by CantSay


Since the 4 Chan crowd decided to move in and troll ATS to kingdom come, this kind of 'neo-biblical' interpretations never ends. and the OP is just another troll having a ball because he lacks a normal life and every good thing that comes with it.

Originally posted by CantSay
2012+ The End Is Very Near

- Lee

Nothing happened nothing will happen get over it and stop with the fear mongering bull crap.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


It would seem I misread your statement. Instead I should ask, how is this any different to any other "new age" stuff?

Originally posted by CantSay
All I'm saying about myself is that I'm a scientist and absolutely need proof to validate what I thought I understood,

A scientist? Could you instead tell us what it is that you actually do / what your education is?
What scientist calls himself/herself a 'scientist' in this context?

so I researched it and found enough proof to satisfy myself that I am correct. The proof is very controversial, so some parts I will not mention.

As you know, this is not the scientific method. If you are a scientist, you need to use it.

[...] nonsense [...]

Nothing to add to that.

The tough times are yet to come. The two witnesses are dead. This I've confirmed with ~90% satisfaction.

You're not a scientist, are you?

Next is increased war and destruction, return of the angels (gods) and man's war against them lead by Dragon/Satan who is amongst us now. The true doomsday, or best stated Apocalypse, is still to come. December 21, 2012 was only an important marker in time, the start of the end. 13 x144,000 days is the end of a long cycle where the Gods return. 144,000 in Revelations was the rapture where angels take good Christians to heaven and God comes down to Earth, and the Hopi have only one last prophecy left (the Blue star). There is about a 50 to 100 year interval between the Hopi prophecies. It is time for the last one. The number 144,000 was misinterpreted by John of Patmos as the angel knew he knew nothing of the Mayan calendar. It was meant for us here and now when man had advanced themselves to a level of understanding and knowledge to start matching the disparaging details.

No, you're not.

I find it extremely unlikely you are a scientist. Scientists require proof, not just something from a book and you're stating the Bible is literal truth. What kind of scientist are you? The OP hasn't answered and I think this is going to be a "hit and run" type of thread. The New Agers lost and can't stand it, so have invented something else that'll have their followers trailing along behind for another 10 years.

reply to post by forgetmenot

It would seem I misread your statement. Instead I should ask, how is this any different to any other "new age" stuff?

New Age
adj.
Of or relating to a complex of spiritual and consciousness-raising movements originating in the 1980s and covering a range of themes from a belief in spiritualism and reincarnation to advocacy of holistic approaches to health and ecology.

Where in this definition do you see "promotes the historical accuracy of Biblical Star Wars encounters"?

Just like some Christians tend to shake their heads at the fundies, a lot of us New Age people tend to shake our heads at the whackos trying to cram together their misshapen puzzle of incongruent ideas. We can build an arguable basis for our beliefs - as you can see from above, others cannot.

Put away that broad brush, would ya? It's a little offensive.

Hey I am a scientist too....glas to meetcha!
Are you looking for a "peer review" by chance?
Yer very likely gonna get several more before the thread dies as all threads do.......
Did you know the I Ching contains a hidden calander which pretty much ends yesterday too?
A scientist found it......

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Sorry, didn't know you were one of them. Anyways, never read a new age prediction or theory that stood up to a real test. As far as educated and growing up, been there and did that many years ago.