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NY Gov Cuomo: "Confiscation could be an option"

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posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
pretty sure he is talking about mandatory confiscation of assault weapons

there are too many hunters in upstate NY for him to lose thier vote on this

think people !!!!!
New York has an AWB.

What would he be confiscating ? To New Yorkers, Californians, and all the other AWB states an assault rifle is this:




posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by littled16
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If you honestly dont believe that proposing to confiscate your firearms isn't radically leftist, or that regulating what kind/size of food or drink you can buy isn't radically leftist I just dont know what to tell you buddy.



Its not radically left at all. You are confusing political spectrums. Obama is a right winged fascist. Hitler was a right winged fascist. Calling himself a socialist party member and being a social democrat are completely 2 different things.

Social democracy, like Norway, for example, is not actually a leftist thing. They keep there programs even when the majority of parties elected are more conservative. They made a commitment to honoring the consitution and what equality means, men and women, and how their lives are different, so equalizing them. Programs equalize women.

They are not owned by the state, but empowered by the people. They are merely the people's tax dollar boomeranging back to them.

The state needs to be run with and by the people, and the systems need to be watch dogged by everyone with strong citizens groups/councils with strong teeth to stop corruption, something all countries need.

On the political circle that we were shown in school decades ago, everything above the line is Democracy, and below is fascism. Well, the so called Canadian Liberals were slightly Right of Center on a world wide scale, and the Conservatives were nearly at the Fascist Line.

The NDP, the social democrat party that is not even left enough for me by the way, as I believe in abundance and equality for everyone, but not drones, individual freedoms wedded to equality and individual abundance and creativity, no cubicles and control grid, thank you very much. For that is NOT social democracy, that is below the line in the circle and is FASCISM, or COMMUNISM, the right to left hand portions under the line of totalitarianism.

BUT, the NDP was just barely left of center on a world wide scale.

OBAMA is a fascist at heart. Food stamps are not the same thing as guaranteed income for all, above the poverty line. Its a very ugly scarsity system he is conducting.

Medical Plans that try to wed government medical, supposedly run at cost universally, with private insurance companies, DOES NOT WORK. He is a corporate minion for the NAZI's and so is the FAR RIGHT in the US.

And programs are not owned by Government, it doesnt mean they own you. They are owned by the people and it is the only right thing to do with tax dollars.

The Far Right would be trying to disarm you too.
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posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Furthermore, I don't really believe in citizens owning guns and using them left right and center.

I especially don't beleive in semi automatics and automatics owned by people.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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While I'm pretty sure I can get on board with your comparison of left, right, and fascism, I cannot agree with your stance on guns being owned by private citizens. Just having possession of a gun has saved the lives of myself and my younger sister when an intruder broke into our home when we were young, and I have twice saved the life of my own husband just by holding a gun- without firing a shot during any of those times. One of those times I held an attacker at bay until police arrived. Guns have also kept my freezer full of meat during many lean years when such luxuries were not affordable from the grocery store. None of the firearms I have owned have ever been fully automatic, but I do have one semi automatic firearm-it was a gift.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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It really isnt fair at all that the entire state is essentially run by NYC...

You're right. It sucks. I live in New York and the best thing that could ever happen is for it to just float away. Rural Upstate NY is essentially republican, or at least moderate, unlike the fanatiscm of Bloomberg and his crazy cousin Cuomo. There is no mechanism in place both in the state or feds to confiscate our firearms.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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This is why I hate both political parties.

The left hates the 2nd.

The right hates the 4th.

They're going to get rid of both the 2nd & 4th in one fell swoop.

Factor in that "video games/movies are responsible too", you can kiss the 1st goodbye as well.

This is a despot's nocturnal emission of an event. I almost wonder if it was a gov't manufactured even for us to freely give up our rights. What's that line from Mein Kempf? People will give up liberty in the name of child safety IIRC?

Why don't we get rid of cars as drunk drivers kill folks in car accidents? Why don't we get rid of spoons as they can be used to put ice cream in us and that makes us fat?

Why are the lawful many punished for the lawless few? Beyond seeking to enslave us all I mean.

Derek



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Furthermore, I don't really believe in citizens owning guns and using them left right and center.

I especially don't beleive in semi automatics and automatics owned by people.



Why is that? Tell us youre thinking here.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Furthermore, I don't really believe in citizens owning guns and using them left right and center.

I especially don't beleive in semi automatics and automatics owned by people.





Your statement above shows your lack of thought in so many ways it is astounding. I notice you post a lot crap and when pushed to back it up you scurry away from the light.


Or maybe you are just a troll either way it is pathetic.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
i, being left of center, don't even believe this should happen. backround checks, and max 15 round clips are enough for me. my fellow democrats sometimes go way overboard. like republicans, they sometimes take the pendulum and swing it too much to the other side. i don't know why "reason", is in such short supply with our politicians.


I used to think I was a Democrat too. I thought I could be a Democrat and simply disagree with them on guns and a couple of other "minor' issues. Until Obamacare came along and I tried to disagree. I found out what "compromise" means to these people. It means they get their way and you get to lose.

And now they're really going after the guns hard.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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How would you like to be the cops attempting to confiscate guns in NY? Cuomo is an idiot.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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By the way, I seriously don't think they'll go the confiscation route. Which isn't to say they don't want to ban guns. But they know there are far too many who are not willing to give up their guns. Liberals are cowards. They will take them a few at a time however they can get them. They will always go for the low hanging fruit (Which for now are those who don't mind "selling" their guns to the government willingly). This is the path of least resistance and that's how they tend to operate for as long as they can. This is how they do everything. It's why the term "progressive" is so fitting (if you ask me).
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Every time I hear something from the elected officials in NY I have to shake my head and ask the obvious question...

Who votes for these guys?

I am all for self determination for the people of NY - as long as they are content to ruin their own State only.

However, the problem is that their Senators (Schumer and Co.) and Representatives somehow think the rest of the country would benefit from the NY style of lefty leadership.

Here’s a tip – we don’t care how they do it in NY. Regulate soda’s, have a police State – I could care less. When they rant about wanting to impose on the other 49 States… Then I got an issue.

There is no way in Hades that this dude would get elected dog catcher where I live let alone Governor. These clowns are comic relief where I live. The punch lines of jokes...nothing more.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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If the government really wanted to get guns off the streets, I think the most realistic and pragmatic approach would be...well, Im not going to provide a blueprint for a treasonist government to trample our 2nd amendment rights. However, our govt can barely organize a census, let alone a confiscation of this magnitude. I don't believe the state or feds have any mechanisms in place to carry out a weapons removal like this. 280 million firearms? Doubtful... Someone should tell Coumo and Bloomberg it's illegal to do drugs...



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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Unity 99, I see the mothership didn't pick you up either? Bastards!

I can't figure which way "The Idiots In Charge" are going with this, on one hand we have the NRA and on the other we have the Feinstein crowd. Maybe they want us to buy a more guns so that they can confiscate them (good luck, that should be a bloodbath) so that they can "fast and furious" them to foreign political group most likely to support some corporate agenda, du jour?



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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I like your posts. I find myself agreeing. You're astute, or seem to be at times.

The thing I highlight in my mind is the need for responsibility and accountability. This does not mean banning guns. It means making sure that those who have them are responsible owners.

We need to counter all of the media focus on shootings and how evil guns are with more tv shows and news articles about responsible gun use and owners who use them right. If it's not countered then many will be led to believe that guns really are evil and should be banned.

All of hte media focus on the shootings is going to lead to copy cat crimes too.
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