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Originally posted by emeris
reply to post by RhinestoneCowboy
Yes definitely mouth closed. I only meant to take a couple breaths with the mouth open so that you get an idea of the type of breathing im talking about. Try it first with your mouth open just for a few breaths and then close your mouth and continue to breath in the same way through the nose. The sound will be more of a hissing sound. Just do the best you can to start and the quality will improve automatically.
I looked at the link and the only problem i find with it is that like most people they suggest a ratio of 1:2. This means that the exhalation should be twice as long as the inhalation. I dont find this to be very natural for me. For me the inhalation and exhalation are naturally the same length. Also most sites talking about Ujjayi dont include kumbhaka which is breath retention, the pause after inhalation(puraka) and exhalation(rechaka). Also i never find anyone who stretches the breath past maybe 10 sec for each part. So they will breath in for 10 sec. and breath out for 10 sec. and thats it. This is why theyre only getting the most basic benefits like the ones mentioned on the link. The real Ujjayi has 4 parts (inhalation,pause,exhalation,pause) Start with 5,5,5,5 then move to 10,10,10,10 but dont stop there. Thats only the very beginning. Wait until you reach 60,60,60,60 thats when you start to see the real benefits of this technique. Once i found out that this was a common technique i started reading every link i could find on it but was disappointed to find noone really practicing anything but the lowest stage. Im not the best at explaining things and even if i were it can still be difficult to understand even if i were there in person to show you. So please ask as many questions as you need to really understand the proper technique. I only posted this so that others can benefit from it and that means they need to understand clearly. So if it takes 1000 posts it will be time well spent.edit on 7-1-2013 by emeris because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by emeris
reply to post by dodol
Practicing acceptance of whatever is happening in the present moment is an essential element to a meditation practice.
The sounds themselves are neutral they dont force you to be bothered or distracted. Remind yourself of that each time you feel bothered by a sound and then practice complete acceptance.
Dont try to only eliminate sounds. Eliminate the mental resistance to them by accepting instead.
As for binaural beats i have only a very limited experience with them. When they first came on the scene many years ago i was very excited by the concept of just putting on the headphones and letting the music do all the work. But i soon realized that just wasn't going to cut it. Luckily i already had years of meditation practice so that i could immediately recognize the shortcomings of this method.
First of all, the effects of binaural beats can never compare to the effects of the techniques in this thread that i had been practicing before trying BB. Also, you become dependent on the earphones and the music and you never develop concentration or inner awareness. If you had then you would not be complaining about distractions because your concentration would quickly reach a level where even though you may hear the various sounds around you they wouldn't be a problem. And as i mentioned before in the thread when concentration gets deeper you dont hear the sounds around you at all.
So if you really want to get rid of noises you should develop your power to concentrate. In the first technique you concentrate on the breath and in the second you concentrate on the feeling of the body. In BB you may concentrate on the sounds but really its a very passive method where you just sit back and expect the music to do all the work and like i said thats not going to cut it.
Now if a sound or a thought comes in and distracts you from your concentration thats ok. As soon as you notice youve been distracted just calmly come back to the object of concentration. With practice you get distracted less and less and eventually you will gain the ability to withdraw your senses completely like a turtle withdrawing its limbs. This is the same experience you would get in a isolation tank but you can enter it anytime anywhere.
So you can continue to use BB if you enjoy it but i would recommend adding either these 2 techniques or something similar to your practice.