Is There a Conspiracy In This Forum To Only allow Anti Christian Threads to be offensive?

reply to post by woogleuk


Could you supply the link then please?
Iam not being lazy it's just Iam having trouble finding them.

Originally posted by OrionsWitness

It's not about just the offensive downright vilifying threads agains tChristianity, its that other religions are off limits espescially Judaism .

They are? I thought all religions were panned equally here.

Guess we got to work on our Judaism, but of course we got to learn about Judaism first, because christianity is all we know, so we pan christianity, because that's what most of us have been brainwashed with.
So yeah, we focus on christianity.

But wait, oh Judaism, (I forgot it's the same thing and peoples as in the Old Testament), the people who believe they are the chosen ones whose ancestors killed off whole cities who did not share their beliefs, slaughtered infants, killed there own sons on gods command, burned people alive, all with gods blessings and commands and rewards. (note small case 'g')

Yeah, that god.

There, I panned Judaism.

reply to post by Toadmund


No you just reported the bible.
And you did not start a thread slandering Moses or Yaweh ect.

You know what Iam saying is true.....but that is the evil of selective elimination of bigotry....in one corner bigotry is banned in another corner, bigotry is given life.

If Bigotry and vilification laws weremade to apply equally to all , then this Earth would be a place so much different than it is now.

THe United Nations should do this and apply the laws to everyone.

Then we could call ourselves civilised.

Iam not talking about questioning , but the threads here vilifying Christianity and Jesus Christ are downright depraved in my opinion.
So why are they not deleted?
Because..there is a conspiracy...on a conspiracy site.
So whats it all about, its about who has power, and who they are .
But of course no one knows this because we all hide behind fiction, if it was made mandatory to use our real names and email adresses, then we could all see the agenda of every member here including those in power.

Deny ignorance?
No selectively Deny Ignorance.
I am for denying ignorance

I really don't see much if any evidence of the target persecution you speak of.
Most people here are or were christian, therefore that is what we write about.

If we were primarily Muslim, we'd knock that too all the time.

reply to post by OrionsWitness


I haven't monitored enough threads recently to know.

My rough periodic scanning of the RECENT POSTS would indicate YES. That's true.

Certainly when I was more frequently involved, IT WAS DEFINITELY TRUE.

I dealt with it as best I could on the threads. That was a lost cause. It was usually dogpile with even some mods joining in against me or some other Christian.

I tried dealing with it with the mods behind the scenes. That got nowhere, too.

I tried dealing with it with the upper level folks. That got nowhere, too.

The perception is that there's no bias and no extra hostility against Christians when the tone, language, even merely the titles indicates otherwise and very seriously otherwise.

I've often wished I had the money to hire some atheist communications specialists to take a random 10-12 thread and analyze them for such wayyyyy lopsided hostility and bias. Alas, I have too many other priorities for my meager income.

However, we should not be surprised. Christ Himself warned us this would be the status quo in the world.

And, all the more so in these END TIMES.

I think at times, it ebbs and flows. Sometimes some new move in enforcing the civility of the site will reach even the ANTI-CHRISTIAN threads. I've never seen such a stance last very long.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope the civility value of ATS has reached even the anti-Christian threads.

Alas, I'm so disgusted with sooooooooooo many months and years of the opposite, I just pulled back from ATS a lot and don't post that much any more. It just was no longer worth it to

ALWAYS have to deal with a rabidly hostile, harsh and personally assaultive stance and tone from the other side.

I tried dialogue with the very few Christian mods. Evidently that's against the rules for the mods.

It has been said that the mods are populated somewhat as ATS seems to be . . . more or less 85-95% nonChristians. Some of them used to have a rabidly and very quickly evident fierce hostility to Christianity that would show up sooner or later on most any Christian oriented thread. I think THAT was moderated somewhat as time went on. I don't know what the status of that phenomenon is currently.

I don't think there's a solution. I think the biases and perspectives on the other side are soooo intense . . .

THEIR NORMALCY BIAS is soooooooo lopsided

and they are soooooo convinced they are correct in their perceptions, values, decisions

there's nothing likely to change. It doesn't matter what "objective reality" is. Their mind is made up. Nothing will likely change.

I hope my reply above is dated by wonderful improvements. If so, please let me know. I'll be shocked.

I think at times, it ebbs and flows. Sometimes some new move in enforcing the civility of the site will reach even the ANTI-CHRISTIAN threads. I've never seen such a stance last very long.

Its funny how Christians have a problem with what they perceive as "anti-Christian" threads.

Because these same Christians support and adore the anti-Christian state of Israel... and its people who mock and insult Jesus and his mother.

Didn't mean to bring in middle east issues here but just wanted to point that out.

reply to post by OrionsWitness


Not everybody believes as you do, if your faith is as strong as you make it seem, what are you worried about? Worried that some non-christian ideas are going to plant seeds in your head?

Surely your faith is stronger than that?

Many agnostics and atheists were once christian, it's nothing to worry about.

Honestly, I think you're looking way too deeply into this...


So I'm going to analyse even further for ya!

So this is generally an English-speaking forum, and the majority of the members are native English speakers. In terms of religion, English-speaking countries are predominantly Christian if any religion at all, as well as most European countries. A third of the world is Christian. Many Christian values and practices have bled into Western societal norms, which have in turn found their way across the globe. In terms of perception in Western society, Christianity is the "vanilla" religion. When someone says the word "religion", I see a cross in my head.

On this forum, almost everyone has some sort of experience with Christianity. Consider it's a site where people are generally wary of the conventional or authoritative, and you'll see what you think you're seeing. No concerted effort there.

That being said, have you seen the stuff people write about Muslims and homosexuals on here? Some guy even postulated that executing atheists on the principle of anti-abortion was justified. In any case, it's the Internet. Although, I do agree that the (x or y)-bashing on this site does become depressing and tiresome.

Originally posted by trollz
Not trying to be off-topic, but Jesus wasn't born on December 25th.

We know that. The date of December 25th was chosen for political reasons. Not everyone agrees to that. Jesus was likely born around the end of September, beginning of October.

Originally posted by steve1709
Take a look at the loss of history, culture and understanding brought about by these couple of examples of religious enlightenment. The spaniards and their RC religion (christian wasn't it?) destroying the records over in sth america

Please, elaborate. Are you talking about the conquest of the Incan and Mayan Empires by Cortes? Or something else?

Originally posted by steve1709
the christians sacking alexandria and destroying the library (what a criminal act for the rest of humanity and history)

Never happened. Sorry.

Originally posted by Frogs
The proof is out there.. or is it?

These threads are always interesting. On the one hand, if you are wrong it should be very easy to prove. On the other, if nobody can prove you wrong by pointing out examples then...

I do not think anyone will try and prove him wrong. Since I do agree with him, I won't try either.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
That said, there is no "conspiracy" against Christianity on this forum.
Yes, there are threads that question and criticize Christianity, but only in a decent and civil manner (at least the ones I participate in) But for every thread criticizing Christianity, there are two to three threads promoting Christianity.

He is not complaining about Christianity being criticized. His argument is that it is the only religion that can be glaringly and openly insulted without having the thread quickly moved to the trash bin.

Originally posted by daskakik
Here you go:
Muhammad (Peace be upon him) Was A Polygamist And A Pedophile

A 4-year-old thread is your best offer?

Originally posted by Toadmund

Originally posted by OrionsWitness

It's not about just the offensive downright vilifying threads agains tChristianity, its that other religions are off limits espescially Judaism .

They are? I thought all religions were panned equally here.

Guess we got to work on our Judaism, but of course we got to learn about Judaism first, because christianity is all we know, so we pan christianity, because that's what most of us have been brainwashed with.
So yeah, we focus on christianity.

But wait, oh Judaism, (I forgot it's the same thing and peoples as in the Old Testament), the people who believe they are the chosen ones whose ancestors killed off whole cities who did not share their beliefs, slaughtered infants, killed there own sons on gods command, burned people alive, all with gods blessings and commands and rewards. (note small case 'g')

Yeah, that god.

There, I panned Judaism.

Well, I've done my part!

The Problem With God

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Was Moses Wiccan?

reply to post by windword


Sure, you did. You got some problems with your knowledge of the Bible. Chronological ones, at least, but sure you did your part.

Still, your threads seem to be quite respectful. At least, at first glance.

Originally posted by Leahn
reply to post by windword

 

Sure, you did. You got some problems with your knowledge of the Bible. Chronological ones, at least, but sure you did your part.

HAHA! You must be referring to my "Was Moses Wiccan" thread. What I was really trying to say is that earth spirits have been honored since the beginning, and that philosophy is brand new. I have a thread about Abraham being a gnostic, in the hopper. I'm sure people are going accuse me of a "time travel" conspiracy again. Hehe.

Still, your threads seem to be quite respectful. At least, at first glance.

Thanks, I try. But I still get accused of being a Christian basher, even when I concentrate only on the Old Testament.

To be fair, I have done a number of threads of Christianity, too.

Originally posted by Leahn
A 4-year-old thread is your best offer?

If it has remained out of the trash bin for 4 years then it is proof that there is no problem with the subject matter. The OP even asked for older threads since any recent threads may be deleted according to his conspiracy theory.

reply to post by Leahn

He is not complaining about Christianity being criticized. His argument is that it is the only religion that can be glaringly and openly insulted without having the thread quickly moved to the trash bin.

I agree that open insults are not good for discussion.

But for the record, Islam is also openly insulted without the thread being closed. Even in threads where an Islamic perspective is being presented or discussed, its not long before the Christians show up to openly insult Islam and Mohammad.

Most of the people insulting Islam on this forum happen to be Christians. IMO, A christian who insults Islam has no grounds to complain about threads hostile to Christianity.



I don't think ATS is a christian website. If Christians want to be able to insult other religions AND ensure that nobody else criticizes Christianity, they should really consider a christian forum.

reply to post by OrionsWitness


Sadly most of the forum has been taken over by New Age Theosophists promoting the new age, extraterrestrials and false Christianity. You shouldn't be surprised the bible warns that in the last days many false christs and false prophets would arise to deceive many.

reply to post by OrionsWitness


I was the one that posted the news article. First of all i do not understand why it is an offence questioning if jesus was gay. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with being gay. This man lived (if at all) many thousands of years ago, we only have the bible as a reference and many people question this book . If being gay is a problem for you, i can't really do anything about that , this is your opinion, i cannot consult with everyone before i post something. However, after reading on the Internet there are many people questioning if jesus was gay. Besides that, there a things posted here on ATS which are way more offensive, but that is just my opinion.

Besides this, i do not post anything to bash whatever. Also the news came from a Cristian church that posted this ad for Christmas.

reply to post by OrionsWitness


Nope sorry OP you are dead wrong. While you may think you see examples of hate and what you may find offensive. The Mods, Admins and yes even the owners do one of the most fantastic jobs I've ever seen in any organization, when it comes to fairness. And believe me I've paid close attention. Any thread made for the soul purpose of ridicule and does not give proof of it's claims ? And provide a platform for debate on the subject ? No matter what that subject is ! If the thread is racially, religiously or ethnically, politically, found to be created to incite hate out of hate.

That thread and most likely it's barer won't last. I know I've done it myself by making a thread criticizing the pope's looks alone. Didn't realize my fopah and it wasn't a hate thing just heavily bagged on his looks. So they kindly just deleted it for me and I received not another word about it.

So you are just wrong and may have hurt some feelings with this thread cause I feel that I know this subject very well. And how proud these people are of this site. I know they take this stuff very seriously.

In fact, on the other hand ! BIOYA.

reply to post by OrionsWitness


Not sure that I would call it a conspiracy, but I have seen a TON of offensive posts towards Christianity, Christians, and even specific Christian members that never seem to be pulled. Yes, I do report them when I see them, but that doesn't mean they are pulled. There seems to be a trend these days (all over, not just here) that it is somehow acceptable to be nasty to Christians, when everyone else is protected. it would be really nice if there was a place that didn't allow that sort of bias. Looking at the threads in religious sections, though, I haven't found that place yet.

Maybe we should call it a conspiracy.....

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reply to post by OrionsWitness

Great post, and very challenging but I would like to refine the challenge to a thread that has been posted on ATS older than say a week, that has not been binned, that vilifies moses.

So you're complaining about a week-old trend in 'offensive anti-Christian threads'?



I think I'm with randyvs on this one.

By the way, is this a pro-Christian or an anti-Jewish thread? I can't figure it out...