Primordial, you make a fair point. I do not have any answers, but my instinctive feeling is that "we" need to compromize - to a certain point - and
never, ever, let ourselves be dragged farther than that point. Draw a line in the sand, but don't draw it where we're currently standing. Be ready to
give *a little* ground.
I hope that made sense. It did sound a bit flaky.
From one thing to another, I'm a friend of the (legendary?) journalist Robert Young Pelton
Facebook, and he posted the following on his wall. To me it makes sense, and at the very least it adds to the discussion, so I will copy and paste it
My two cents (By Robert Young Pelton):
1) Rampage murderers chose soft targets. So security is just going to shift them to work, malls or playgrounds. The idea is to kill as many innocent
helpless people as possible and then blow your brains out.
2) Similar events happen all over the world and involve a variety of weapons from aircraft to knives to rocks. Guns are not the problem. Just an easy
to use tool.
3) Gun control is a completely separate "hot button" issue that cannot be solved without a major constitutional battle. Many other countries have a
bizarre mix of laws ranging from outright bans to complex restrictions. Regulating the legal activities of law abiding citizens does not stop
criminals. There is a problem with the use of weapons in crime and domestic violence in America. But Chicago is a perfect example of the failure of
gun legislation to stop this.
4) Politically our government should focus on statistically relevant problems versus news worthy politicking. Gay marriage, gun legislation, tax the
rich etc etc are irrelevant to basic but unsexy underlying problems like education, health care and safety. The TSA is what happens when a government
is allowed to "solve" a problem.
5) If a community feels threatened by violence they should have to right to deal with it rather than wait for beltway bandaids that will never
actually resolve the underlying problems. If armed guards are wanted they should be hired, if another solution is deemed better so be it. We are all
responsible for our own safety, law enforcement can only responds to crime they cannot successfully guard everyone or monitor millions of potential
6) The effects of "more" security can be viewed by statistically comparing violent Britain, one of the most violent nations on earth versus peaceful
Somalia. Societal structure, control and enforcement is the key to reigning in misfits not national bandaids. If every American had a camera planted
in his/her head it still would not stop insane people from doing violence.
7) Some people hate guns, usually those that are inexperienced, uncomfortable or blissfully ignorant of how to store and use them properly. Those that
know how to use them would be very hesitant to discharge them in crowded school or office. This skill of surgical killing is only mastered by the most
elite counter terrorism forces like the SAS, Devgru and CAG and even they are very concerned about innocent casualties. Some police SWAT units are
also expert but share the same concern.
8) Turning the government (who hire security to protect from their constituents) and the wealthy (who hire security to protect them from their fans)
into a gun nation while removing guns from the masses is a very elitist concept and at odds with democracy.
9) Most experts that speak out on gun control are rarely providing advice on how to actually stop random members of society from unleashing violence
but rather how to restrain all members of society for the potential actions of a few insane people.
10) Many people like myself sense that there are motivators and indicators to identify potential rampage shooters. Stress, drugs, social retardation,
repressed emotions etc can be indicators. There are real time psychiatrists and law enforcement professionals that study this field with jumpers,
hostage takers and suicide threateners. I see very little posted or discussed in this area.
11) there is no number eleven.
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