I don’t want to argue. You have your opinion I have mine.
I already said that even the bad unions do some good. That goes without saying that the good I see them do is weighed in my mind with the evil I see them do.
I have come to the conclusion after 5 years here, and a lifetime of visiting that they do more harm than good.
I find the single single most identifying common thread between them all is their political ideology.
If you notice I have BARELY even touched communism in this thread
So I just stood my ground against a mob of communist morons trying to forcibly close me down today.,
Originally posted by Aleister
reply to post by gladtobehere
Keep your guns handy? I don't think they are presently solving problems in Spain with guns. American mentality often stops at its borders.edit on 21-12-2012 by Aleister because: edit
Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
yes I was talking to some of my neighbors and they were pretty pissed about that. I guess the cops were more concerned with if things got violent. There were instances of the protesters breaking some chairs for the terraces and the like crap. One place in particular was where the secretary general and lead lawyer (for an organization that represents us as well as tourism for our area abroad) were drinking their coffee (inferior coffee to mine) and the cops had to get out of the vans and break things up. There is no mention of that in the MSM here though.
I guess they didnt want to get caught on camera interfering with the protest. I dont know. Sucks that what they are doing is technically legal. I dont want to reform laws so they cant protest, I want them to simply respect people who are not marching with them.
edit on 22-12-2012 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by gladtobehere
I was partially educated in Spain, and lived there for almost 10 years as my family roots are from northern Spain.
In Spain it is illegal to own a short weapon like a pistol, except for the police, and special forces. Spain has become more and more leftist. They forgot the lessons from the RED TERROR of the 1930s, when leftists, socialists, communists etc, decided to go on a killing spree in most of the country and in about 2-3 months they murdered tens of thousands of people. The figure has been never fully known but it is believed it could have been as high as 72,000+
They murdered religious people, and capitalists, even many of the clergy were murdered by these leftwing scumbags, and because of this Franco decided to end the leftwing threat, once and for all.
They also burned many churches all around the country, even thou they were not the mayority, as Spain has also been a very religious country. The mayority was silent until these murders.
Even back in the 1980s i remember going to bars and hearing conversations from old men who missed the times of Franco. Yes, he killed MANY leftwingers, and their sympathizers... But there was near no crime at all, and if you did commit a crime you were caught very quickly and dealt with harshly.
Leftwingers love to ignore history, and what their ideas have caused to the world at large, and to this day they still think their ideas are right...
These are the people who sided with Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, the castro brothers etc, etc... The worse of the worse that mankind has ever done...
These are the people who caused the most murders/killings than all other wars together, including the mayor world wars.
In total leftwingers have murdered/killed 130 million -160+ million in around 87 years, not to mention the gulags, and indoctrination/brainwashing camps they set up all around the world to force their ideas upon those that didn't want them... and they still want more...
edit on 23-12-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Originally posted by nottelling
reply to post by zedVSzardoz
...discuss their ideology and mine (which is vaguely Anarcho-Libertarian but don't tell anyone) until the cows come home...
The term "Anarcho-Libertarian" is redundant. Libertarian traditionally referred to Anarchists (typically Socialists) and not free-market right wing industrialists.
If you're thinking of "Anarcho"-Capitalism, that is an oxymoron.
I can see from you post that the corruption at the top is rife. No wonder people are pouring into the street protesting.
For example, if a policy enforcer (police) says to you: "Do you understand", he is not speaking english. Normally, you'd think he is simply asking whether you comprehend what he is saying. He is not.
He is actually asking for you to STAND UNDER him - in other words, if you give a positive answer to that question, he has gained AUTHORITY OVER YOU.