Doomsday thread #92288: The Archetype of the Apocalypse -revelation, judgment, destruction, rebirth

As an archetype of the collective unconscious, the apocalypse is inside us all. The "world" that is supposed to "end" (and be reborn) is the ego. That's how enlightenment happens.

For starters, it’s at the very core of what C.G. Jung believed is happening to the world today. Jung's psychology is the only school of psychology that believes there are two centers to the psyche---the ego being the center of consciousness, and the archetype of the Self being the center of what he called the objective psyche, or the collective unconscious. Other psychological schools certainly acknowledge two realms of the psyche, the conscious and unconscious, but only Jung posits the existence of two totally independent centers.

The word "Apocalypse" (revelation) is from the Greek meaning "uncovering what has been hidden." In other words, the revelation of new truth. This process operates in four phases: revelation, judgment, destruction, and a new birth. If we look back over two centuries, we see the revelation of torrents of new scientific, psychological and social truth; judgments or assessments made on the basis of this new truth; the collapse of beliefs and institutions based on the former truth, and are becoming dysfunctional within the context of the new truth; and the sprigs of the new worldview trying to blossom. Destruction and new birth take place simultaneously, although the popular use of the word apocalypse has come to mean total destruction.

So to summarize: the "archetype of the Apocalypse" is the activation of the archetype of the Self--the central archetype of meaning--that is bringing with it some new worldview, a new God-image, a new relationship to the Divine, and a new stage of psychological maturation for the whole earth.

Source: www.shamanswell.org...

An archetype is a formless, autonomous pattern in the collective unconscious. They find expression through symbolic forms in world myth and religion. In living metaphors. That doesn't make it a lie or a hoax.

We project the archetypes out there instead of incubating them in here, where they can become activated.

Every day brings us closer to a possible SHTF scenario. Everyone knows it. We are in dangerous times. But we need to resist the temptation to project the archetype of the apocalypse onto these dangers and circumstances. When we do, we create synchronicity.

We need to withdraw the projections we put on the world and on each other.

Happy Solstice everyone!

Joseph Campbell took Jung's archetypes to the great beyond and back. If you enjoy the study of archetypes, and you haven't gotten into Campbell, give him a try. Bill Moyers did a series of interviews with him during the 80's before Campbell passed called "The Power of Myth". The information and stories imparted by those interviews continue to be some of the most valuable knowledge I've ever absorbed.

reply to post by chasingbrahman


Thanks! I've read almost everything Campbell has written and I've heard most of his lectures and seen most of his vids.

Have you read anything by Jeffrey J. Kripal yet? A brilliant up-an-comer for comparativists.

i for one, have never been able to "get into" this type of, well for a better word, mysticism. why?...because of the vague words and phrases, much like the ones used in the opening post. i realize that it is suppose to be about what one is "feeling", or being in a particular "emotional state" or "contemplative realm"...but...a more descriptive approach to the ideas you are attempting to convey, would be much more helpful.

Which particular word or phrase in the OP seems most vague to you?

And here my friends is evidence that my Jungian 'collective unconscious' approach to the 'apocalypse' is indeed the correct approach.

Graph of Accumulating Deviations: The Complete Formal Database

The two following figures represent the history of our formal hypothesis testing. The first shows the Z-scores for more than 350 formally specified events in an ordinary scatterplot. While there is a noticeable positive bias, it is not easy to see its significance. Yet the odds against chance of this meanshift over a database this size are about a thousand million to one.



The second figure displays the same data as a cumulative deviation from chance expectation (shown as the horizontal black line at 0 deviation). Truly random data would produce a jagged curve with no slope, wandering up and down around the horizontal. The dotted smooth curves show the 0.05 and 0.001 and 0.000001 probability envelopes that indicate significant versus chance excursions. This figure can be compared with a "control distribution" using simulations of the event series.

The jagged red line shows the accumulating excess of the empirically normalized Z-scores relative to expectation for the complete dataset of rigorously defined events. The overall result is highly significant. The odds against chance are much greater than a million to one.