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Grand Ayatollah says Christian Females may be Raped!?

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posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Well theres your disconnect.As to how I feel I am repelled by a great deal of behavior lately.My government slaughtering thousands at that hands of a socialist,empowered by a former incompetent forerunner who created documents allowing this guy to establish the gestapo.
A supposed progessive who is more warlike than any other POTUS we have ever had and denying any other authority or orders when starting fights.He 's a screw up his choices are screw ups and the world is putting this clowns values ON ME as he runs us right off a cliff and blames it on the other party.
This same group is chipping away at my rights and many DON'T SEE A THING.
I haven't looked at them with any measure of satisfaction since Reagan.

My FEELINGS won't change a thing so I don't express them here.Just what the truth is as I see it. No emo moments accept when my nationalism,defensive posture and stupid stereotypical group think punk tells me what his opinion is when zero research has been done.just an emotional response to the latest nes and damn all other facts.This includes: Traditions(Those aren't in to many video game) Tolerance ( I'm also Christian) and guns none of which bears expressing on this topic.




posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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So the Muslim equivalent of the Westboro Baptist mob goes on a rant about raping Christian women and you guys take him seriously?

Muslims have their nutjobs too people, no need to paint all of them with the same brush.



posted on Dec, 22 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Technically yes ,but isn't that the purpose behind this topic? To make villians of Muslims yet again?
We should know by now who the whack balls are by their speech.
What I'm interested in is recovering relation ships with moderate Muslims,despite these maniacs.
Not that the US govt. expresses American values lately.



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by UltraMarine

The Iraqi Shiite Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ahmad al-Hassani al Baghdadi gave his call to murder Christians in an interview with Egyptian television station Al Baghdadia known. Al Baghdadi, who is one of the most radical representatives of the Islamic Jihad, denounced the Christians as polytheists and friends of the Zionists. The command of Al Baghdadis to the Christian minority in Iraq is “conversion to Islam or death.” The women and girls of the Christians “can legitimately regarded as the Muslim women,” said the Grand Ayatollah. Al Baghdadi, who comes from Najaf in Iraq, one of the “holy cities” of Shiite Islam, now lives in Syria, where he supports the armed struggle of the Islamists.


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All the more reason we will support Assad.



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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Buahahaha, christians polytheists.

We're made in the image of our God, who has Body, Spirit and Soul. Not 3 God's, only 1 who has 3 parts to him just like we do. Ignorant fools.

Well muslim are idolaters and they worship Satan...er i mean Allah, or Azazel, or Hu'bal, Al-Uzzah, Al'lat and Menat the three crones whose intercession they hope for.

We don't circle a building 7 times for remission of sins or kiss flipping broken chunks of rocks for forgiveness of sins.





This is what hypocrisy looks like.
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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by littled16
This isn't the first time that this particular idiot has decreed something preposterous, and I'm sure it won't be the last.
Let's get him and Phred Phelps in the ring and let the fundies duke it out. Lord save us all from arses with access to an audience!



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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If they are trying to provoke christianity to militarize again, they just might get their wish, and unlike the Crusades where battles were on equal footing, now we have the upper hand with superior technology. They won't win this fight if they force us to bring it.



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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If they are trying to provoke christianity to militarize again, they just might get their wish, and unlike the Crusades where battles were on equal footing, now we have the upper hand with superior technology. They won't win this fight if they force us to bring it.
Like in Afghanistan? Let's not get too jingoistic, eh?



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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If they are trying to provoke christianity to militarize again, they just might get their wish, and unlike the Crusades where battles were on equal footing, now we have the upper hand with superior technology. They won't win this fight if they force us to bring it.
Like in Afghanistan? Let's not get too jingoistic, eh?


Afghanistan ain't by us, but at least girls are being allowed to go to school and get an education, at least until we are no longer present and the taliban takes over and females go back to being treated worse than dogs and pack animals.
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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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So many say don't worry?

I just posted this on another topic.

Christianity 'close to extinction' in Middle East
Christianity faces being wiped out of the “biblical heartlands” in the Middle East because of mounting persecution of worshippers, according to a new report.
www.telegraph.co.uk...


A far less widely grasped fact is that Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers.”

It cites estimates that 200 million Christians, or 10 per cent of Christians worldwide, are “socially disadvantaged, harassed or actively oppressed for their beliefs.”

State hostility towards Christianity is particularly rife in China, where more Christians are imprisoned than in any other country in the world, according to the report.


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The “lion’s share” of persecution faced by Christians arises in countries where Islam is the dominant faith, the report says, quoting estimates that between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have left the region or been killed in the past century.

“There is now a serious risk that Christianity will disappear from its biblical heartlands,” it claims.

The report shows that “Muslim-majority” states make up 12 of the 20 countries judged to be “unfree” on the grounds of religious tolerance by Freedom House, the human rights think tank.

It catalogues hundreds of attacks on Christians by religious fanatics over recent years, focusing on seven countries: Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, Nigeria, India, Burma and China.



“In most cases, those responsible declared that they wanted all Christians to be expelled from the country,” the report says.

In Pakistan, the murder last year of Shahbaz Bhatti, the country’s Catholic minister for minorities, “vividly reflected” religious intolerance in Pakistan.


And while many people are aware of the oppression faced in Burma by Aung San Suu Kyi and other pro-democracy activists, targeted abuse of Christians in the country has been given little exposure, the report says.

In some areas of Burma the government has clamped down on Christian protesters by restricting the building of new churches.

“Openly professing Christians employed in government service find it virtually impossible to get promotion,” it adds.



I am sure many will be happy to hear this.
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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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Let's get him and Phred Phelps in the ring and let the fundies duke it out. Lord save us all from arses with access to an audience!


Now that sounds like it could be fun!!!



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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A sect of Orthodox Jews have writings that say they can too rape a gentile girl as young as 3 years of age if they wish.. no harm done because those gentiles are not Gods chosen people.. they exist for the Jews to use as they see fit.

These Orthodox Jews are who we call Zionists today. There are Not just you run of the mill Nutjobs.. these people have very long held beliefs that go back thousands of years and they do Not deviate as a group. In other words.. it's not ust a few nutjobs but all the members of this sect.

I say this to make the point, even the Christians have roots in these Jews and this belief is not only attributed to Muslims.
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posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Buahahaha, christians polytheists.
We're made in the image of our God, who has Body, Spirit and Soul. Not 3 God's, only 1 who has 3 parts to him just like we do. Ignorant fools.
Well muslim are idolaters and they worship Satan...er i mean Allah, or Azazel, or Hu'bal, Al-Uzzah, Al'lat and Menat the three crones whose intercession they hope for.



if Christians say three ! and they claim they are worshiping the only God by that and it is symbolic. and they do not mean that there are three Gods in this world. we should accept that !

but when muslims say they are worshiping the only God and respecting Abraham when they go as a pilgrim to Paran (Mecca) and it is symbolic, then why should not we accept that !!




posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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In some areas of Burma the government has clamped down on Christian protesters by restricting the building of new churches.


Well, just take a peek at some of Sharia law (Islamic law). Of which christians and other nonmuslim may not even testify in court against muslim who commit crimes against them. Meaning there is no justice for nonmuslim. Muslim women need the testimony of 4 men in court, the testimony of other women is not permitted, and nonmuslim women who get raped? They deserved it, and again no justice since they cannot even testify. The terrorists who blow up nonmuslim are the real muslim, not these "moderates". Thats why they kill the moderates too because they think them apostates for refusing to kill us all now, and the only difference between a moderate and an extremist is, extremists want us all dead now and moderates are just waiting for their reincarnted Muhammad Mahdi to appear and then they will turn on you like a rabid dog and tear you to pieces.

Sharia/Islamic law

1- Jihad defined as “to war against all non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.
2- A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.
3- The head of an Islamic State (Caliph) cannot be charged, let alone be punished for serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape (Hudood cases) - Codified Islamic Law Vol 3 # 914C of and page 188 of Hedaya the Hanafi manual.
4- A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.
5- It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.
6- A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.
7- The Muslim public must remove the Caliph in one case, if he rejects Islam.
8- A Muslim who leaves Islam (apostate) must be killed immediately.
9- A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of : a) an apostasy b) an adulterer c) a highway robber. Making vigilante street justice and honor killing acceptable.
10- A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim.
11- Sharia never abolished slavery and sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave. Slavery still exists amongst Arab Muslims.
12- Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, for sins like killing, adultery, prostitutions; and other Quranic corporal punishments like: amputation of limbs (chopping hands and feet), floggings, beatings and other forms of cruel and unusual punishments even for the sins like: stealing, sexual promiscuity, robbery, burglary etc.
13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia (pay Zizzya: poll tax) if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their own religious scriptures, or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he commits adultery with a Muslim woman or if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.
14- It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. However, Muslims can curse, criticize or say anything derogatory they like to the religions of others.
15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.
16- Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.
17- No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or a bathhouse attendant. Women in such low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.
18- A non-Muslim cannot rule even over a non-Muslims minority.
19- Homosexuality is punishable by death. (18 January 2011, 5:26pm) - Two young men who filmed themselves having sex with a 17-year-old have been sentenced to death by stoning in Iran (click on image for full story)
20- There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and consummated at age 8 or 9.
21- Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.
22- Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying: “I divorce you” and becomes effective even if the husband did not intend it.
23- There is no common property between husband and wife and the husband’s property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.
24- A woman inherits half what a man inherits. Sister gets half of what brother gets.
25- A man has the right to have up to 4 wives and wife has no right to divorce him even if he is polygamous.
26- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.
27- A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and also with women captured in battle (concubines), and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.
28- The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man; that is, two women equal to one man.
29- A woman looses custody if she remarries.
30- A rapist may only be required to pay the bride-money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.
31- A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body which is considered “Awrah,” a sexual organ. Some schools of Sharia allow the face and some don’t.
32- A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife caught in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women since he “could be married to the woman he was caught with.”
33-It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory and is known as Taqiyya (Islamic Deception). That means that for the sake of abiding with Islam’s commandments, such as jihad, a Muslim is obliged to lie and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying.
The above are clear-cut laws in Islam decided by great Imams after years of examination and interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Mohammed’s life.

34. The perpetrators of genocide, mass rape and plunder will not be punished if they repent - Codified Islamic Law Vol 1 # 13.
35. To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses. Women’s testimony is not accepted - Pakistan’s Hudood ordnance 7 of 1979 amended by 8B of 1980. Thousands of raped women and girls in many countries have been charged with Zena (physical relations outside marriage) and punished by Sharia courts for want of witnesses.
36. All modern music including sexually explicit music of any kind is strictly prohibited and punishable by Islamic Sharia code of justice. Only Islamic songs are allowed.



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by maes2

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Buahahaha, christians polytheists.
We're made in the image of our God, who has Body, Spirit and Soul. Not 3 God's, only 1 who has 3 parts to him just like we do. Ignorant fools.
Well muslim are idolaters and they worship Satan...er i mean Allah, or Azazel, or Hu'bal, Al-Uzzah, Al'lat and Menat the three crones whose intercession they hope for.




if Christians say three ! and they claim they are worshiping the only God by that and it is symbolic. and they do not mean that there are three Gods in this world. we should accept that !

but when muslims say they are worshiping the only God and respecting Abraham when they go as a pilgrim to Paran (Mecca) and it is symbolic, then why should not we accept that !!


Because Abraham's God is not attached to the corner of the Kaaba.





Abraham didn't do any of this, kissing and touching and praying to the "supreme rock god", he wasn't anywhere near Mecca. There is no biblical record at all of Abraham going that far south at all. He didn't even go as far south as Mt. Sinai (Jubal Al'Lawz), so he and Ishmael building the kaaba and laying the black stone is a fairytale. The original Kaaba was built as a temple to Hindu gods when the Indian Empire annexed the region.



Abraham didn't circle this thing 7 times for remission of sins either.



Here is where Abraham did go.
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posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Well, just take a peek at some of Sharia law (Islamic law).
It is as reasonable to define Islam by its excesses as it is to define Christianity by Phred Phelps and the Old Testament. A few points...Muslims are being vilified so that we can steal their oil and kill them in the process in case they become an inconvenience along the way.

Secondly, the folks that run the show require a bad guy (Goldstein) to keep us in a state of stress, and thereby malleable.

Recall the babies being tossed out of Kuwaiti hospital windows? How many Americans died due to that little bit of Bravo Sierra? How many ways you need to get suckered?

Finally, the Russians and the British broke the backs of their empires trying to tame A-stan over the last couple of centuries. I don't think Canada should offer up any more cannon fodder. Y'all might feel the same about Americans.




posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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We're made in the image of
our God, who has Body, Spirit and Soul. Not 3 God's,
only 1 who has 3 parts to
him just like we do.

whats difference between soul and spirit?
And what part of God is homologous to human 3 parts, body-Jesus pbuh, soul-God and spirit-Holy spirit? Or the triune comparison just ends when it serves the purpose of rationalising trinity.

Well muslim are idolaters
and they worship Satan...er i mean Allah, or Azazel, or
Hu'bal, Al-Uzzah, Al'lat and
Menat the three crones
whose intercession they
hope for.

it would be really odd when prophet Muhammad pbuh destroyed these idols after taking charge of Kabba, i mean who destroys their own gods or they are not our gods, we dont need more than the real One God.
And hope u are really this ignorant because the other option is that you are intentionally spreading misinformation.

The original Kaaba was built
as a temple to Hindu gods when the
Indian Empire annexed the region.

really?!! When? They must be really interested to acquire a desert and then they disappeared without a trace leaving behind their temple. And the ready to kill over a fight for a camel arab people of pre islamic times must have just surrendered, hmm.. Sounds like more misinformation.



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Well, just take a peek at some of Sharia
law (Islamic law)...1- Jihad defined as “to war against all
non-Muslims to establish the religion”
is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim
head of state (Caliph)...
...36. All modern music including
sexually explicit music of any kind is
strictly prohibited and punishable by Islamic Sharia code of justice. Only
Islamic songs are allowed.

just one question, how much anti-islamic is the link and article on islammonitor and cant you find islamic sources or they are not sensational and dont serve your agenda?
A rape victim needing 4 witnesses? Seriously!!! Its the accused who has to prove his innocense.
Its 4 witnesses for adultery who actually saw the act to prove adultery and if not found then no stoning.
If anyone brings false accusations against a woman then 80 lashes to the liars and banning from future testifying in any case.





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