The Zero-point, page 3

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reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 11:49 AM by 1nf1del

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by D1ss1dent

If the nothingness is found life becomes lighter. Everyone longs for the nothingness. It is what the seeker seeks. It wants to rest in peace. Being longs to be.

There is no :"nothingness", EVERYTHING is made of the same energy, if energy takes up every little gap where do you expect to find "nothingness"?

reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 11:55 AM by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by 1nf1del

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by D1ss1dent

If the nothingness is found life becomes lighter. Everyone longs for the nothingness. It is what the seeker seeks. It wants to rest in peace. Being longs to be.

There is no :"nothingness", EVERYTHING is made of the same energy, if energy takes up every little gap where do you expect to find "nothingness"?

But that energy is not a thing. It is formless until it is formed. Realizing the unformed energy (prior to all things) is what is important. Return to the source.

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reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 01:16 PM by 1nf1del

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by 1nf1del

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by D1ss1dent

If the nothingness is found life becomes lighter. Everyone longs for the nothingness. It is what the seeker seeks. It wants to rest in peace. Being longs to be.

There is no :"nothingness", EVERYTHING is made of the same energy, if energy takes up every little gap where do you expect to find "nothingness"?

But that energy is not a thing. It is formless until it is formed. Realizing the unformed energy (prior to all things) is what is important. Return to the source.
edit on 22-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

It is still a thing that can be defined as energy!

reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 02:17 PM by D1ss1dent

reply to post by 1nf1del

We could say that "That" is a complete mystery but, at the same time, it is not because it is experienced.

reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 03:00 PM by Itisnowagain

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reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 03:06 PM by superluminal11

reply to post by D1ss1dent

Dr Len explains it quite nicely

YouTube Link

reply posted on 23-12-2012 @ 09:01 AM by D1ss1dent

reply to post by superluminal11

Very interesting interview, superluminal11. Thank you very much. What i retain the most are the words "Let it go"

. It is similar to neti neti in Jnana yoga. Eventually, it leads to what could be called moments of pristine "purushic" clarity. Detachment culminates into full embracement.

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reply posted on 23-12-2012 @ 10:20 AM by QueenofWeird

reply posted on 24-12-2012 @ 09:34 AM by D1ss1dent

Conclusively, what could be said is that:

1) Fundamentally, reality has two inseparable aspects: one static and the other, dynamic (purusha & prakriti).

2) The dynamic aspect is a reflection of the static one.

3) Everyone is the zero-point.

4) The zero-point is infinite and has the ability to create an infinite amount of infinities.

5) The static spect of reality is not nothing (a self-evidence, if you look around yourself).

7) "That" can be named and "That" can also not be named.

6) "The zero-point can be known" and "the zero point cannot be known" are two valid statements.

8) There's only two things that exist: knowledge and ignorance.

reply posted on 24-12-2012 @ 09:40 AM by Magantice

reply to post by D1ss1dent

My thoughts on this are to try and ignore this post because the info is over my head and gives me a headache. If its something you find interesting..............good luck to ya.

reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 02:23 AM by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by D1ss1dent
Conclusively, what could be said is that:

1) Fundamentally, reality has two inseparable aspects: one static and the other, dynamic (purusha & prakriti).

2) The dynamic aspect is a reflection of the static one.

3) Everyone is the zero-point.

4) The zero-point is infinite and has the ability to create an infinite amount of infinities.

5) The static spect of reality is not nothing (a self-evidence, if you look around yourself).

7) "That" can be named and "That" can also not be named.

6) "The zero-point can be known" and "the zero point cannot be known" are two valid statements.

8) There's only two things that exist: knowledge and ignorance.

The zero point where nothing is happening is great, especially when you actually experience it. Finding the zero point and living life from there is what everyone is looking for.
Living in the dynamic aspect can be disturbing, it is like living on the surface of the ocean where the waves are. One gets pushed about by all the waving, all the sound and fury.
When one finds the zero point where no thing is happening it is like dropping down into the ocean and from there the waves can be watched in peace.

I will leave you this video where Mooji takes a lady out of the waves and leads her to the depth of the ocean.
youtu.be...

Mooji shows her nothing. And she says it is really nice.

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reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 02:27 AM by AthlonSavage

reply to post by Itisnowagain

S1; AB - 2
S2: ABA - 3
S3: ABAAB - 5
S4: ABAABABA - 8
S5: ABAABABAABAAB -13
S6: ABAABABAABAABABAABABA - 21
S7: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAAB - 34
S8: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABA - 55
S9: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABA
ABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAAB -89
Sx: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABA
BAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABA
ABABAABAABABAABABA

... 144
Sx11:
ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABA
BAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABA
ABABAABAABABAABABA
ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABA
ABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAAB - 233

reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 03:24 AM by 1nf1del

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain

S1; AB - 2
S2: ABA - 3
S3: ABAAB - 5
S4: ABAABABA - 8
S5: ABAABABAABAAB -13
S6: ABAABABAABAABABAABABA - 21
S7: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAAB - 34
S8: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABA - 55
S9: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABA
ABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAAB -89
Sx: ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABA
BAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABA
ABABAABAABABAABABA

... 144
Sx11:
ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABA
BAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABA
ABABAABAABABAABABA
ABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABABAABA
ABABAABAABABAABABAABAABABAABAAB - 233

I saw this posted before but could you explain this to me like I was four years old?

reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 03:46 AM by AthlonSavage

reply to post by 1nf1del

The key is this simple. Lets look at first three sequences
S1; AB - 2
S2: ABA - 3
S3: ABAAB - 5

The number at the end of each sequence is there to tell how many letters in sequence,
e.g. S1 AB has 2 letters.

How do we generate sequencce S3 from only knowing S1 and S2?
S1; AB - 2
S2: ABA - 3

Quite easy actually

The sum of 2 + 3 = 5. Therefore we know know S3 will be a sequence made of 5 letters.

S3 will have 5 letters

and what are the letters the S3 sequence is built from. Its built from previous TWO sequences.
Its a descending order summation of previous two sequnces therefore S3 = S2 + S1. (not S1 + S2) but

S2 + S1 = ABA + AB and Therefore S3 = ABAAB

The S4 = S3 + S2 etc

edit on 25-12-2012 by AthlonSavage because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 04:38 AM by 1nf1del

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by 1nf1del

The key is this simple. Lets look at first three sequences
S1; AB - 2
S2: ABA - 3
S3: ABAAB - 5

The number at the end of each sequence is there to tell how many letters in sequence,
e.g. S1 AB has 2 letters.

How do we generate sequencce S3 from only knowing S1 and S2?
S1; AB - 2
S2: ABA - 3

Quite easy actually

The sum of 2 + 3 = 5. Therefore we know know S3 will be a sequence made of 5 letters.

S3 will have 5 letters

and what are the letters the S3 sequence is built from. Its built from previous TWO sequences.
Its a descending order summation of previous two sequnces therefore S3 = S2 + S1. (not S1 + S2) but

S2 + S1 = ABA + AB and Therefore S3 = ABAAB

The S4 = S3 + S2 etc

edit on 25-12-2012 by AthlonSavage because: (no reason given)

Ahh okay thanks!

reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 05:31 AM by D1ss1dent

reply to post by Itisnowagain

Finding the zero point and living life from there is what everyone is looking for.

Personally, I know many people who fear silence and seek to avoid it

. They think that they'll cease to exist when, in fact, it's the Exact opposite...

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reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 05:44 AM by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by D1ss1dent
reply to post by Itisnowagain

Finding the zero point and living life from there is what everyone is looking for.

Personally, I know many people who fear silence . They think that they'll cease to exist when, in fact, it's the Exact opposite...

edit on 25-12-2012 by D1ss1dent because: (no reason given)

What is it that they 'think' exists, that will cease to exist?
The silent emptiness is what we are and deep down this is felt and the search is to fulfil that emptiness. When the seeking stops that emptiness is found to be what we long for.
The 'person' will cease to exist as a reality and will be seen as an idea (illusion), so not many will go here, it destroys all that was once believed in, the whole thing comes tumbling down.
Then all that is left is this, Presence.

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reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 05:45 AM by jiggerj

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
There is form but no thing 's'.
The form is formed from formlessness.
When the formlessness (nothing) is found, it is obvious that there is only the one form. The one form is formed out of nothing.

If something is formed from the nothingness, then it can be returned to the nothingness. <---That can't happen. Everything starts at 1, not zero.

reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 05:47 AM by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
There is form but no thing 's'.
The form is formed from formlessness.
When the formlessness (nothing) is found, it is obvious that there is only the one form. The one form is formed out of nothing.

If something is formed from the nothingness, then it can be returned to the nothingness. <---That can't happen. Everything starts at 1, not zero.

Everything returns to nothing. Listen, can you hear a noise? Does the noise stay? Or does it disappear?

If things stayed then music would not be possible, a note has to disappear before a new note and there has to be gaps, no one makes the gaps they have nothing in them.

Music is made out of compressed nothing. All that is experienced is made of compressed nothing.

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reply posted on 25-12-2012 @ 05:48 AM by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
There is form but no thing 's'.
The form is formed from formlessness.
When the formlessness (nothing) is found, it is obvious that there is only the one form. The one form is formed out of nothing.

If something is formed from the nothingness, then it can be returned to the nothingness. <---That can't happen. Everything starts at 1, not zero.

Tell me your next thought....................... What is your next thought?
Where did it come from and where does it go?
What hears or knows that thought? Where does it appear?

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