I had posted most of this in the now closed thread. Sorry for not seeing this one before doing so.
I read the news on this the other day and was disheartened by the implications to the free law abiding citizens.
Many states have 'stop & identify' laws which provide the LEO's with the right to request identification.
The states I am aware of are:
AL, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, IL, KS, LA, MO, MT, NE, NH, NM, NV, NY, ND, RI, UT, VT, WI
Though it may have broadened since.
I do know that our supreme court has ruled on an issue of identification in the case of
Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada
where it ruled to uphold states
rights requiring citizens to comply with presenting identification to police when they have reasonable suspicion regarding criminal activity. The case
cites many other cases which came before regarding this issue and also states that this one picks up where they left off.
Furthermore, training for LEO's has gone from privately funded institutes to federally funded sessions provided by none other than our DHS, FEMA and
the TSA. These sessions, provide officers with needed skills and abilities, yet also outline ways to identify possible 'extremists'. They exist in
many urban areas and are called 'fusion centers
I'm sure many have heard or read about this already, so I will not give too many details, but surmise as I do, this issue is beginning to bother me
more than a little. Some here are already connecting the dots and seeing what is transpiring across this country. The
which describes a woman who survived the Nazi regime starts to
make more and more sense.
We are being conditioned to believe this is the 'norm'
and how a society needs to be if it is to achieve peace.
My personal opinion on this issue.. BOGUS BS. If crime is rampant and the local LEO's aren't doing what is needed, get rid of them and do it yourself.
We are the only people responsible for our own safety and should never depend upon another to keep us safe.
When stopped by an officer under these circumstances, continue to ask if you are 'free to go'. Unless they tell you directly that you are not, which
will often be the case, keep asking it. Most LEO's will get the idea that you are aware of your rights and know the law, which may prevent them from
harassing you further.
edit on 2012/23/12 by prysmatyk because: added content