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Originally posted by 007Polytoks
reply to post by sconner755
Who then is the police source that is lying to these media outlets?
CNN reported the same thing.
Business insider reported the same thing.
If your claim is that what ABC news reports means nothing, then you must also concede that other media outlets (all of which very likely use the same source), are also not worth listening to in this incident. Thereby meaning that an independent inquiry, not some dog and pony show like the 9/11 omission report, needs to investigate this matter with full transparency.
In that topic there is a picture of the car, which was being towed and touted by the media as "the killers car", it holds the EXACT same license plate as what was reported over the radio. What do you mean by "The Rodia reference was for a second stop"? How do you prove these claims? Who's vehicle was this, where is the proof that this was registered to Lanza's mother?
Nobody here has seen the actual police reports, autopsy records, videos from the school.
Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
reply to post by 007Polytoks
I believe what I believe not because of what someone told me but from information I've gleaned from listening to over 24 hours of unaltered scanner feeds, initial reports I've gotten from a realitive(who has 0 reason to try and fool me) who works in the FBI computer crimes division, vehicle registration info I've received from the same relative, obituaries, funeral notices, and being well versed in police, crime scene and criminal justice procedures.
I grew up with family members who are police, FBI, private investigators as well as former military spec op operators. I know more than your average hobbiest about police and military weapons, tactics and procedures. For one no "professional" would use the level of overkill seen at either scene, its messy and time wasting not to mention it shows a personal motive to the crimes. More importantly it shows uncontrolled rage, not something you see with a "pro" they are emotionally detached and work from sheer training. They are efficient and fast, a "pro" would have been in and out of the school in under 3 mins with a body count of 26. In the 16 mins reported on the scanner a "pro" would have had a count in the hundreds with 1-3 rounds per body, not 3-11 rounds, that's hate and rage, not a "hit". Logic and common sense says the perp was inefficient and angry, not a trait seen in a hit team, merc etc.
There's been ridiculous connections made based on inexperienced ideas of how things should work, people should react, etc. I'm not here to make friends or win hearts I'm here sheerly to find ignorance and turn it on its head, replace it with logic and intelligence and maybe educate someone on the way.
Clueless civilians who refuse to research before speculating make me want to slam my head in a wall.
You can feel free to believe whatever crazy, outlandish theory you like, however I deal in facts. So while you're free to believe there's a mythical boogeyman hiding in the shadows out to create every event as some conspiracy, I'm free to sit back and laugh at your ignorance, when you refuse to see the forest thru the trees, and accept reality there's nothing I can do to help you find the forest your looking for while standing in the midst of it.
Can you please show me the source for this claim of an obituary?
Where is your proof that he killed her?
How do you know that her son wasn't framed?
Why are you so ready to accept what others tell you as fact?
Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by OGOldGreg
Scenario: Let's say I live out in the country....too far out for a prompt police response in an emergency and an armed criminal gang of 4 individuals pulls up in a stolen mini van intent on burgling my residence and they start kicking in the door without realizing that someone (me) was home. I yell thru the door that I am home and am calling the police and they yell back "Go ahead but you'll be dead before they get here!" Let's say I have a gun safe with a shotgun for bird hunting and a varmint rifle for coyotes and an assault styled rifle with a high capacity clip that I bought as insurance for something like this.....I quickly open the safe before the reinforced door is kicked in....now I ask you which gun would you select? You might actually pick the shotgun but you are limited to the # of rounds (1 more than the assailants is not enough)....so I would select the AR-15 with the 30 rd clip (if it was a .308 then it would have been a 20 rd magazine). Are you saying that I dont have a right to exercise the equivalent of personal police power over my own home? Is a man's home not his castle?
Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
There was a second tag number broadcast for the vehicle Rodia was stopped in. Clueless civilians who refuse to research before speculating make me want to slam my head in a wall. If you did the tiniest bit of research into police radios you would know return info on potential suspects is ALWAYS sent on low frequency burst encryption comms or via cruiser PCs so that potentially innocent people don't have their name tied to a crime by Joe armchairdetective and his $9.99 radio shack scanner brigade. Police are well aware of the fact many people listen to their calls on scanners trying to feel as if they are part of something bigger, or just plain old fashioned morbid curiosity.