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"There's no money here for you to steal," to which Bane replies "Then what are you people doing here?"
There are other instances, but I'll leave it there for sake of brevity. What I'm getting at, is that this film repeatedly, thematically shows the "bad guys" as being the lower classes and those who think there should be greater financial equality in society.
Meanwhile the "good guys" are primarily the police... or better, The Authorities, and people like Billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne. It had a 1% vs 99% vibe so thick you could cut it with a knife. And of course, the 99% are the portion of the population most of the "bad guys" are from.
Those of us who believe in a strong, tangible link between thought, emotion, and the manifestation of reality might see the value in doing something like this, assuming something like 9/11 might have been a "false flag" event.
The last Olympics and the Superbowl have been prime targets of such speculation. Some even believe that a planned false flag at a recent superbowl was averted by knowledge of this being spread far and wide on the internet.
Originally posted by Openeye
reply to post by iwilliam
I'm curious...are you a Batman fan?
Because if you are you would clearly understand the role of the League of Shadows.
They are an elitist, anti materialist, anti capitalist, anarchist, naturalist organization. The wealthy and modern society have always been their target.
So how is this "conspiratorial", Nolan simply used the archetype which was illustrated in the comic book and put it on screen. This is actually why I did not like the movie, because it was just a rehash of the plot of Batman Begins.
Originally posted by Openeye
...the League of Shadows had no intention of returning Gotham to the people or spread equality, this was all just a cover to further torture modern society before their magnum opus of detonating the nuclear device, they were elitists.
Originally posted by Openeye
Well yes the police were the good guys, what else were they supposed to be? The police are there to serve the people right? So it makes sense that James Gordon and his police force would be on the good side.
They did not elaborate on or make this clear in the film, which is my topic here.
And movies are never made by one, or two, or three, or even a small handful of individuals. Not movies like this. They are made by large groups. And some guy at the top, with money and the ability to pull strings does get to dictate which elements are acceptable, and what should remain on the cutting room floor. Movie production involves a certain kind of politics that make it an inherently different medium than comic books
Movie production involves a certain kind of politics that make it an inherently different medium than comic books.
Further, not everyone sees the government, the establishment, or even "the police" (as a generalized kind of thing) to be "the good guys," and not all films portray them as such. But this wasn't just the cops, the local government, essentially "The Establishment," but also the establishment and the wealthy elite, most nicely symbolized (though not solely) by Bruce Wayne.
Regarding the rest, that is as I said far more speculative and much of it is subject to personal view and opinion. You may feel some of what I mentioned was "thoroughly debunked" though I do not agree, and I saw you provide no evidence of such.
PPS-- If the writer / producers had stuck to the comic book plot as you describe it, that could be seen as even worse. It could be seen as giving the message that those who represent or fight for "the 99%" (or whatever label you might want to put on the powerless masses) are just as bad or little different than the "elite" 1%