Bath, MI. Home Of the WORST Mass killing in a school!

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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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To all the "anti-gunners" out there, I thought you might find this interesting because I've seen arguments over and over by the Anti-gun people saying that they just don't believe that school tragedy's would happen if there were no guns.

I went searching for Mass shootings in Michigan because Michigan is one of the few states that ALLOWS guns by teaching staff in the schools. Low and behold, there's been no major tragedy's (suprise suprise) but I did stumble upon the WORST mass killing in a school in the history of the United States.

The New York Times, May 19, 1927

MANIAC BLOWS UP SCHOOL, KILLS 42, MOSTLY CHILDREN; HAD PROTESTED HIGH TAXES

33 PUPILS AMONG VICTIMS

He Then Kills Himself and 3 Others by Dynamiting Auto in Bath, Mich.

CHILDREN PINNED IN DEBRIS

Others Hurled Against Walls or Out Windows - Searchers Still Hunt for Missing

AGONIZING SCENES IN YARD

Distraught Parents Find Little Ones Dead Beneath Blankets - 85 to 95 Injured.

Special to The New York Times.

freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com...

Everyone take a look. Then tell me that if guns were banned that people WOULDN'T find other means to mass kill.




posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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To all the "would be loser madmen" the "high score" is 45. Not 27....
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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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I think it's more like six million. I mean, hitler was definitely a would-be lose if he hadn't taken power. Incidentally, he was also quite the madman.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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Heh, yeah, But i'm talking about school tragedy's. but since were on the subject of Hitler.. didn't Stalin and Mao both beat him?



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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If memory serves I believe half of his explosives failed to go off . I think he had another wing of the school wired and there was broke wire somewhere .



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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This fascinates me because this is 1927 and the occult numerology still pops up with the same numbers as happens today:

33 kids
42 total (4+2=7)

And the adults? 42-33= 9

33, 7, 9 the same numbers we see popping up over and over again in these kinds of things.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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It is the minds natural instinct to find patterns in things.. Try taking another set of 3 numbers and you'll be able to calculate them into many current events as well...If you try hard enough



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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Yeah, Heh, couldn't find anyone claiming the "illuminati" on that one.. Heh



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
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42 total (4+2=7)



Um care to revaluate your statement?

4+2 is 6!

Stop making crap up. You can't even do basic math, what is wrong with you.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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Stalin and Mao weren't any better.
But this is getting off-topic. I'm out.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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Um care to revaluate your statement?

4+2 is 6!

Stop making crap up. You can't even do basic math, what is wrong with you.


Um..yes, you are correct. My math was off on that one, as was the OP's official counts.

According to the wiki page en.wikipedia.org...

45 (38 children, 2 teachers, 4 other adults and the bomber) were killed

4+5=9 8+3=11 and 45-38=7

7, 9, 11 (and I double checked my math on that.)

58 injured 8+5=13

7, 9, 11, 13

Again, same sets of numbers keep coming up on these things. And it is even more interesting that this was so long ago.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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That's what I said...45....

Now your including injured to get your numbers. Did you include injured with the recent shooting and the theatre shooting?

I think your refering to the article i quoted in the thread... But I clearly stated it was 45...
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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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That's what I said...45....


Original quote from OP


The New York Times, May 19, 1927

MANIAC BLOWS UP SCHOOL, KILLS 42, MOSTLY CHILDREN; HAD PROTESTED HIGH TAXES

33 PUPILS AMONG VICTIMS


Nope...you originally said 42 and then that 45 was the high in the next post, but the first post clearly says 42.

As far as injured included, yes, I always count those as well

EXACTLY like Bath, the number wounded in Aurora was 58 (again 5+8=13) and added to the 12 (1+2=3) that makes a total of 70 dead and wounded in Aurora (another 7)

So in the dead and wounded we have 3, 7, and 13 represented

And in Sandy Hook

27 in school with 2 wounded +1 (mom) elsewhere)

2+7=9+2=11+1=12 (1+2=3_

So in the dead and wounded 9, 11, and 3 are represented.

In addition, interestingly, wiki has the Sandy Hook incident lasting from 9:35-9:53 (mirrored numbers are another occult numerology "trick")

This is an 18 min span of time and here we have another 9 (1+8=9)

With Aurora: 12:38 am-12:45 am or, in other words, 7 minutes

Or Columbine: 11:19 am – 12:08 pm or 49 minutes (4+9=13) So here's 13 again and in this case There were 13 dead (another 13) +2 shooters + 21 injured = 36 total (3+6=9) so another 9

But nope, the same occultically significant numbers showing up again and again but it's just coincidence of course.





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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Bud, like I said in te PREVIOUS post. the "42" was a quote from a New york times article.. Hence the reason it said New york times... Below that post, you will find that I said the "high score" is 45... That was an article from 1927 in my first post. I added it because some people can't wrap there minds around the fact that news papers make errors. Hence the reasons for all these various "conspiracy's" that tend to arise around horrible things.

As far as the numbers go. You have no pattern. For example. you can take the time of a recent shooting and total 7. But you can't take the times of other and do the same. So, no pattern. You're merely adding numbers from various shootings untill you get your desired numbers like 3, 7, 9 etc etc... But you cannot implement a general "formula" over each scenario and get your desired numbers.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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As far as the numbers go. You have no pattern. For example. you can take the time of a recent shooting and total 7. But you can't take the times of other and do the same


Umm, no I can't, but they are not all coded to 7, some are coded to 9, some to 11, some to 13, some to 33

Yes, there is a pattern, but they are not always going to be the same numbers.
They will however always be a 3, 7, 9, 11, 13, 33

As for the 42/45 I missed that about it being a NYT quote.

As for a general formula, yes I can

Number of Dead, Number of wounded, date, time, time range are numerologically significant in all of these types of things.



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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Ok, Assuming your correct. What do you think this means?



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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Ok, Assuming your correct. What do you think this means?


One of two things,

Either these kinds of things are coded in at a universe level (meaning that these numbers show up like this due to the universe's math, like a pine cone being coded for the fibanacci sequence.)

Or that these are intentionally coded in because these kinds of things aren't as random as they might appear and happen as a part of an occult ritual by the Illuminati/PTB

It's interesting to me to do this kind of analyzing of mass murders, especially when they happened so long ago, only to find they follow the same numerological format as similar things that happen today. I actually did an analysis using wikipedia's list of mass murders through history. I started in the late 1800's and had 1000 data points to work with. In the final analysis, the occurrence of the ritually important numbers was strongly statistically significant. 1000 data points is across more than 100 years is a pretty strong analytic set.

How deeply coded are these things? Sometimes (often but not always) right down to the ages of the victims. I don't know how this is accomplished (one fellow researcher thinks it is a super computer a'la the Matrix) but it's there.

Here are the ages for CT

16 6 year olds 1+6+6=13
4 7 year olds 7+4=11

and the adults

Rachel Davino, 29 2+9=11
Dawn Hocksprung, 47 4+7=11
Anne Marie Murphy, 52 5+2=7
Lauren Rousseau, 30
Mary Sherlach, 56 5+6=11
Victoria Soto, 27 7+2=9

So three 11's, 7, 9, and 3

One great example of this is the Tuscon shootings because the numbers show up not only in their ages but the distances in between:

Christina Taylor Green, 9,
John Roll, 63,
Dorothy "Dot" Morris, 76,
Dorwan Stoddard, 76,
Phyllis Schneck, 79,
Gabriel "Gabe" Zimmerman, 30,

So we have (reduced) 9, 9, 13, 13, 7(7+9=16, 1+6=7), and 3

and to top it off the 9yo was born on 9/11/01 and the shooter was born 9/10/88-exactly 13 yrs and 1 day apart.

and the distance between the ages of those killed:

30-9 is 21 (2+1=3), 63-30=33, 76-63=13, 79-76=3

two 3's, 13, and 33...really...


Very interesting to me is the "misreporting" by the NYT in your OP. You included it as an example of how reporters make mistakes but 33 kids (with 33 being a very significant #) ?

Just like, initially I saw reports in CT of 27 dead, 18 of them children (2+7=9, 1+8=9, plus 27-18=9.)

Even the "mistakes" seem to be numerically significant

Let's go deeper into Bath though, since that is the topic and look at the ages of the victims of this "lone madman"

The ages of the adults

55, 33, 33, 52 (5+2=7), 74 (7+4=11), 30, 21 (2+1=3)

So two 33, two 3's, 11, 7, and another double number 55. Sounds about right. Using the same formula for the kids in Bath as I did for the kids in CT we get:

7yo 1 = 8
8 yo 10 =9
9yo 4 =13
10yo 5 =6
11yo 5 =7
12yo 8 =11
13yo 4 =8
14yo 1 =6

So 7, 11, 9. 13 all numbers that I have been discussing with the addition of 2 8's and 2 6's

So, regardless of whether or not you believe in this, the same numbers keep coming up again and again, often with minimal math games (like just measuring the number of years between the ages of victims-no make it say what you want accusations there-13 years is 13 years.) And if they are statistically significant (which they are) that leads us back to the conclusion of one of the two options I gave at the beginning.

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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
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Ok, Assuming your correct. What do you think this means?


One of two things,

Either these kinds of things are coded in at a universe level (meaning that these numbers show up like this due to the universe's math, like a pine cone being coded for the fibanacci sequence.)

Or that these are intentionally coded in because these kinds of things aren't as random as they might appear and happen as a part of an occult ritual by the Illuminati/PTB


What if, your right....And your wrong... What If, It's coded at a universal level, like the fibanacci sequence...But yet, they are in fact engineered....Then you have God my friend....Or perhaps....The matrix Theory..... Or perhaps your looking at a fibanacci sequence on a level that just don't make sense......Perhaps.....It's nothing.....

When it all boils down bud...It will never really make sense too any of us.. Cause it's beyond us... Weither or not you give it a purpose... That's up to you...And that's..... Buddhism.... Heh



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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I'm sure there's a mathematical prediction for it,... Your gonna make me have to look it up...



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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What if, your right....And your wrong... What If, It's coded at a universal level, like the fibanacci sequence...But yet, they are in fact engineered....Then you have God my friend....Or perhaps....The matrix Theory..... Or perhaps your looking at a fibanacci sequence on a level that just don't make sense......Perhaps.....It's nothing..... When it all boils down bud...It will never really make sense too any of us.. Cause it's beyond us... Weither or not you give it a purpose... That's up to you...And that's..... Buddhism.... Heh


And that is something I can't argue with. I'm pretty smart with experience in psychology, esoteric spirituality, occult ritual, numerology/sacred geometry, and perception and I've thought this over from a lot of angles. The occult ritual interpretation makes the most sense to me. But I'm the first to admit there are some aspects I just don't understand, like how that pattern could play out in their ages. I've taken an "everything I believe is true and everything I believe is false" approach to life for ages now. We really do create our own realities.

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