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reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:20 PM by PuterMan
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You may be right seeing as it was 26,000 years ago.

Coincidence or what?


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:26 PM by eriktheawful
Gamma rays, X rays, Visible light, Infrared, Ultraviolet all travel at what we coin the speed of light. Those are electromagnetic frequencies, with Gamma and X ray being the highest frequencies, and infrared the lowest frequency.

So, when the probe captured the images, ALL of those frequencies were arriving here with the light you see in the image.

No need to cower in terror while waiting for some Gama rays on it's way to fry you, as when the flare happened and the light got here, so did the rest of the EM spectrum.

In other words: the electromagnetic energy part of the event is over with.

Now, just like the sun, you see the flare before the excited or ionized particles get here, because those particles travel much, much, MUCH slower than the speed of light.

How much slower? That's a good question, and is dependent on many things, but let us take a look at an example:

CME errupts from the sun and we see it. It took about 8 minutes for the light of that CME to get here.
However, if you've ever kept an eye on these types of solar events, you know that it can take a day, or even 2 days for the ionized particles that give us those beautiful northern lights to get here. Many are traveling at only 2 million miles per hour.

Let's say this explosion created some very high velocity ionized particles, and give them a velocity of about 10 million miles per hour.

We are 26,000 light years away from there. That is 1,456,000,000,000,000,000 or 1.456 x 10^18 miles away. At 10,000,000 Mph, it will take those particles 16,621,000 years to get here.

That's IF they survive not being absorbed by things in between here an there, like other stars, interstellar dust, etc, etc,.....and only if it was pointed in the right way because, let's face it folks, the solar system is not going to be sitting here in 16 millions years, but will be quite a ways down the road on it's path around the galaxy.....


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:29 PM by foodstamp
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Well, perhaps a good source of information would be the rays of the sun. I believe those take 7 minutes to get here. My guess is that maybe the rays from the explosion would be about 1/250thof the speed of light. Probably be another 70,000 years or so before we'd feel it. If there was anything to "feel" by then.

Shockwaves that is....Not x rays or gamma
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reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:39 PM by MysterX
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Arken...don't take this the wrong way, i'm a fan...normally.

But c'mon, were just getting used to 2012 being a load of BS, and you're starting already with 2013!

This doesn't bode well for post quality in 2013 mate!

OK...the light from an explosion thousands of light years away has reached us, and the doom predictions are that the heavier, denser particles travelling at sub-light speeds will be knocking on Earths door to kick our teeth in soon.

This is the centre of our Galaxy...hasn't anyone thought that there are objects inbetween our little Solar system and whatever might be following? How about millions of stars and other planetary systems?

In any case, even if the big bad particles are heading right for Earth and won't be obstructed millions of times on it's way here, even at just a fraction below TSOL, it might take an extra hundred years or more to reach us.

I wouldn't start doom and gloom posts about 2013 just yet mate, let's get 2012 out of the way first eh?


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:44 PM by PuterMan
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No need to cower in terror while waiting for some Gama rays on it's way to fry you


Oh p*sh. Spoilsport. I was getting all exited about being fried and was even considering going large. Not even just a teensy weensy bit of terror, pretty please?

Tell me however. I am getting more and more perplexed by what seems to be a bit of a conundrum. A black hole sooks everything in and is so strong even light cannot escape. Yet it belches? How so?


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:47 PM by Phage
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Yet it belches? How so?

The radiation does not come from the black hole. It comes from near, not within, the event horizon
Matter being destroyed near the event horizon produces a lot of energy.
news.nationalgeographic.com...
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reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:50 PM by eriktheawful
Originally posted by PuterMan
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post by eriktheawful



No need to cower in terror while waiting for some Gama rays on it's way to fry you


Oh p*sh. Spoilsport. I was getting all exited about being fried and was even considering going large. Not even just a teensy weensy bit of terror, pretty please?

Tell me however. I am getting more and more perplexed by what seems to be a bit of a conundrum. A black hole sooks everything in and is so strong even light cannot escape. Yet it belches? How so?


What Phage just said.

Things just outside the event horizon that we are seeing.


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:50 PM by MysterX
reply to post by PuterMan




Tell me however. I am getting more and more perplexed by what seems to be a bit of a conundrum. A black hole sooks everything in and is so strong even light cannot escape. Yet it belches? How so?


Good question.

Gas is certainly heavier than a photon...so how is it light cannot escape the star crushing super-gravity of a massive black hole...but gas can?

Doesn't make much sense to me either mate.


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:51 PM by Phage
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Which would also indicate that no material wavefront would be expanding from the event.


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:52 PM by DAZ21
Originally posted by PuterMan
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post by eriktheawful



No need to cower in terror while waiting for some Gama rays on it's way to fry you


Oh p*sh. Spoilsport. I was getting all exited about being fried and was even considering going large. Not even just a teensy weensy bit of terror, pretty please?

Tell me however. I am getting more and more perplexed by what seems to be a bit of a conundrum. A black hole sooks everything in and is so strong even light cannot escape. Yet it belches? How so?


What about Hawking radiation?


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 12:55 PM by Phage
reply to post by DAZ21


What about Hawking radiation?

Not confirmed to exist.
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