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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:09 PM
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I learned about deer eating meat from the TF thread that was shut down due to tooth's petulant behavior. Another poster on that thread told how he put out garbage to see how far a deer would go. If I recall right he was amazed at the deer eating chicken and beef scraps.

In that thread tooth was adamant that deer were not browsers. The wiki article at the time had the diet listed a few paragraphs down and a section right at the top mentioning deer eating forbes. No matter how many times I quoted the browsing from the article tooth denied it. No wonder that thread was shut down.

I wonder if cabbits eat meat, too. Maybe they dine on carricken?

cabbits
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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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Starving deer will do crazy things.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:55 PM
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And there is another example of moving the goal posts. You know darn good and well what I mean when I say they don't normally eat rocks in their diet.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:57 PM
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I never claimed otherwise.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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reply to post by colin42
 


Many do under unusual conditions, so I was right.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:00 PM
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Squirrels eating meat is not proof of experimentation, its a concise diet they rest on as a result of the herbivore diet not being in reach. If they actually did experiment, the diet would say that, but it doesn't, it says they settle for insects and small rodents.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:06 PM
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When are you going to produce something credible that proves evoultion to not be a fake?



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:18 PM
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Yeah! That's a Good One!

Good Job!

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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Yes it does.

Here is LIVING FOSSIL EVIDENCE.

YOU have a Tail Bone. Some people are still being BORN with a Tail. This is because at one point our Direct Ancestors that we EVOLVED from HAD TAILS.

JUST TRY to deny this.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:29 PM
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Prove Relation? What the Hell does that mean?

It is a GENETIC FACT that all Life on Earth is Genetically Related to each other.

Your statement is nonsense.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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Many do under unusual conditions, so I was right.
AH the dishonest trolling cherry picker at work.

Coprophagia /kɒp.rə.ˈfeɪ.dʒi.ə/[1] or coprophagy is the consumption of feces, from the Greek κόπρος copros, "feces" and φαγεῖν phagein, "to eat". Many animal species practice coprophagia as a matter of course; other species do not normally consume feces but may do so under unusual conditions. Coprophagy refers to many kinds of feces eating including eating feces of other species (heterospecifics),of other individuals (allocoprophagy), or its own (autocoprophagy), those once deposited or taken directly from the anus.[2]
The piece I provided says 'Many animal species practice coprophagia as a matter of course; other species do not normally consume feces but may do so under unusual conditions.'

Again showing you read what you want to see and are more than prepared to lie when you cannot

If you had bothered to read the whole article you would have found out what those unusual conditions were but instead you chose dishonesty and ignorance just like you did all those times before, in fact just like you do every time



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by stereologist
 


When are you going to produce something credible that proves evoultion to not be a fake?
When you take your trolling idots fantasy to the debate forum

Get some guts. Date, time we know the place



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 09:08 AM
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Starving deer will do crazy things.

Discussing normal deer under normal circumstances.

Deer experiment with food regardless of the abundance.

Take TF to the debate forum.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 09:09 AM
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And there is another example of moving the goal posts. You know darn good and well what I mean when I say they don't normally eat rocks in their diet.

Completely false. It's normal for deer and other animals to consume dirt and rocks.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 09:10 AM
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Squirrels eating meat is not proof of experimentation, its a concise diet they rest on as a result of the herbivore diet not being in reach. If they actually did experiment, the diet would say that, but it doesn't, it says they settle for insects and small rodents.

False. It is normal for squirrels and other rodents to consume meat regardless of the abundance of food.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 09:11 AM
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When are you going to produce something credible that proves evoultion to not be a fake?

Posted many times in this thread.

When are you going to post the first piece of evidence ever to support the nonsense you call TF?

Take TF to the debate forum.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by colin42

Originally posted by itsthetooth
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Many do under unusual conditions, so I was right.
AH the dishonest trolling cherry picker at work.

Coprophagia /kɒp.rə.ˈfeɪ.dʒi.ə/[1] or coprophagy is the consumption of feces, from the Greek κόπρος copros, "feces" and φαγεῖν phagein, "to eat". Many animal species practice coprophagia as a matter of course; other species do not normally consume feces but may do so under unusual conditions. Coprophagy refers to many kinds of feces eating including eating feces of other species (heterospecifics),of other individuals (allocoprophagy), or its own (autocoprophagy), those once deposited or taken directly from the anus.[2]
The piece I provided says 'Many animal species practice coprophagia as a matter of course; other species do not normally consume feces but may do so under unusual conditions.'

Again showing you read what you want to see and are more than prepared to lie when you cannot

If you had bothered to read the whole article you would have found out what those unusual conditions were but instead you chose dishonesty and ignorance just like you did all those times before, in fact just like you do every time


Yep. My ex-room mate had a chocolate lab that often ate his own feces. This was despite the fact that the dog was fed extremely well, given treats daily and also was spoiled by the owner and given leftover human food after dinner. The dog was an eating machine, even when it came to his own doodoo. That's hands down proof that creatures experiment with their diets That's just a fact of reality. Many creatures don't think on the same level as humans, but they aren't stupid and certainly don't only experiment out of desperation.

My cat eats the same food every day in abundance (she's a grazer, so her bowl always has some food in it) and is given the occasional treats once a week or so. Despite that she still experiments eating plants and grass outside and inside. I had to get rid of some of my plants because they were toxic to cats and she would attempt to eat them.

Those are 2 examples of well fed animals, experimenting with their diet regardless of the abundance of food.

Tooth is an obvious troll. He uses warped logic and reasoning to make arguments against evolution, then when he's proven wrong he claims the goal posts are being moved, which is absurd. People are debunking his faulty logic, they aren't changing the definition of evolution. Evolution has always been defined as genetic mutations sorted by natural selection, both of which are 100% proven observable measurable phenomena. His best argument against that is "well I've never seen an ape turn into a human, so it must be false!" What he doesn't realize is that the goal posts are very much being moved, but he is the one guilty of it. I doubt he even understands what that analogy means. Fun times.
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posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 12:10 PM
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Posted many times in this thread.

When are you going to post the first piece of evidence ever to support the nonsense you call TF?

Take TF to the debate forum.
I have posted tons, you just have to review back, and its not encrypted like evoultion is either.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 12:18 PM
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AH the dishonest trolling cherry picker at work.
Coprophagia /kɒp.rə.ˈfeɪ.dʒi.ə/[1] or coprophagy is the consumption of feces, from the Greek κόπρος copros, "feces" and φαγεῖν phagein, "to eat". Many animal species practice coprophagia as a matter of course; other species do not normally consume feces but may do so under unusual conditions. Coprophagy refers to many kinds of feces eating including eating feces of other species (heterospecifics),of other individuals (allocoprophagy), or its own (autocoprophagy), those once deposited or taken directly from the anus.[2]
The piece I provided says 'Many animal species practice coprophagia as a matter of course; other species do not normally consume feces but may do so under unusual conditions.'

Again showing you read what you want to see and are more than prepared to lie when you cannot

If you had bothered to read the whole article you would have found out what those unusual conditions were but instead you chose dishonesty and ignorance just like you did all those times before, in fact just like you do every time



Animals eat feces when they are starving, we have already established this. Right now my parakeets are at the bottom of the cage, eating poo because I haven't filled their food dish.




Yep. My ex-room mate had a chocolate lab that often ate his own feces. This was despite the fact that the dog was fed extremely well, given treats daily and also was spoiled by the owner and given leftover human food after dinner. The dog was an eating machine, even when it came to his own doodoo. That's hands down proof that creatures experiment with their diets That's just a fact of reality. Many creatures don't think on the same level as humans, but they aren't stupid and certainly don't only experiment out of desperation.
None of which was his target food, so he acted out by eating feces. Now your getting it.




My cat eats the same food every day in abundance (she's a grazer, so her bowl always has some food in it) and is given the occasional treats once a week or so. Despite that she still experiments eating plants and grass outside and inside. I had to get rid of some of my plants because they were toxic to cats and she would attempt to eat them.
And if she had her Target Food she wouldn't be in starvation mode.

I think your finally catching on.




Those are 2 examples of well fed animals, experimenting with their diet regardless of the abundance of food.
You don't know that. You don't know that the man made food is fulfilling their desires and satisfying every nutritional need they have. Obviously from them acting out, its not.




Tooth is an obvious troll. He uses warped logic and reasoning to make arguments against evolution, then when he's proven wrong he claims the goal posts are being moved, which is absurd. People are debunking his faulty logic, they aren't changing the definition of evolution. Evolution has always been defined as genetic mutations sorted by natural selection, both of which are 100% proven observable measurable phenomena. His best argument against that is "well I've never seen an ape turn into a human, so it must be false!" What he doesn't realize is that the goal posts are very much being moved, but he is the one guilty of it. I doubt he even understands what that analogy means. Fun times
I don't need to move goal posts, they seem to be floating for evolution. There is still no proof that I have seen that proves we share a common ancestor with apes. Unless you have an imagination anyhow.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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False. It is normal for squirrels and other rodents to consume meat regardless of the abundance of food.
That is false, and the squirrel diet in wiki even tells you thats false. They even explain that this alternate diet is only when the other is out of season.



However, some squirrels also consume meat, especially when faced with hunger

As you can see they have specifically identified why the squirrel is eating meat. It's when he is faced with hunger.




Completely false. It's normal for deer and other animals to consume dirt and rocks.
Then you have been observing starving deer.




Discussing normal deer under normal circumstances.

Deer experiment with food regardless of the abundance.
Yet you keep giving clues that they are starving.









 
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