reply to post by intrepid
When tens of millions of dissenting Americans are rounded up, placed in those new FEMA camps, and shot with those 450 million bullets that FEMA just
bought, will you have any feelings for them?
Pathetic power-grabbing hypocritical [snip], page 2
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 01:26 PM by intrepid
reply to post by VictorVonDoom
Nope because it ain't going to happen. Another bogus excuse. I answered yours, now answer mine please.
Nope because it ain't going to happen. Another bogus excuse. I answered yours, now answer mine please.
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 02:08 PM by nixie_nox
reply to post by VictorVonDoom
It is because of responses like these that I am swinging towards gun control.
It is because of responses like these that I am swinging towards gun control.
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 02:29 PM by VictorVonDoom
reply to post by intrepid
I feel sorry for anyone that loses their lives because of the actions of a crazed lunatic, and the families of everyone involved.
I would also feel sorry for the hundreds of millions of people and their future generations that will lose their rights because of the actions of a few crazed lunatics. It's a good thing we didn't re-institute slavery based on the actions of a few mentally derranged former slaves.
But of course, the US Government would never kill its own people, right? They've never done it in the past, right? It's just a coincidence that they've built all these brand new FEMA detention centers. It's just another coincidence that they have recently passed all that legal framework to allow the government to kidnap and imprison anyone for any reason with no trial, no attorney, and no communicaiton with the outside world. And the fact that POTUS thinks he has the right to have anyone killed at any time for any reason is just pure coincidence. And I'm sure that FEMA just bought those 450 million rounds of ammo to boost the economy or something. None of this means that there is a plan to start killing off millions of Americans.
But, if someone did want to kill millions of Americans, it would make for a pretty good plan. The only thing left to do would be to disarm people so they can be rounded up easily.
I feel sorry for anyone that loses their lives because of the actions of a crazed lunatic, and the families of everyone involved.
I would also feel sorry for the hundreds of millions of people and their future generations that will lose their rights because of the actions of a few crazed lunatics. It's a good thing we didn't re-institute slavery based on the actions of a few mentally derranged former slaves.
But of course, the US Government would never kill its own people, right? They've never done it in the past, right? It's just a coincidence that they've built all these brand new FEMA detention centers. It's just another coincidence that they have recently passed all that legal framework to allow the government to kidnap and imprison anyone for any reason with no trial, no attorney, and no communicaiton with the outside world. And the fact that POTUS thinks he has the right to have anyone killed at any time for any reason is just pure coincidence. And I'm sure that FEMA just bought those 450 million rounds of ammo to boost the economy or something. None of this means that there is a plan to start killing off millions of Americans.
But, if someone did want to kill millions of Americans, it would make for a pretty good plan. The only thing left to do would be to disarm people so they can be rounded up easily.
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 02:45 PM by VictorVonDoom
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by VictorVonDoom
It is because of responses like these that I am swinging towards gun control.
I look at things like Waco and Ruby Ridge and I think that Americans need guns. Lots of them. The bigger the better.
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 02:45 PM by intrepid
reply to post by VictorVonDoom
OK. I'll use one of the gun advocates arguments then. If someone wants to defend themselves they will just do it with something other than a gun. Sounds lame, doesn't it? Same as saying that if someone is going to kill they will just find another way.
OK. I'll use one of the gun advocates arguments then. If someone wants to defend themselves they will just do it with something other than a gun. Sounds lame, doesn't it? Same as saying that if someone is going to kill they will just find another way.
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 02:58 PM by FissionSurplus
People who think that gun control is the answer are living in La La Land.
The state with the highest murder rate is actually not a state at all, it is the District of Columbia, which has had exceptionally strict gun control for 25 years.
www.statemaster.com...
gunowners.org...
I would argue, like others, that poverty is a stronger indicator of gun violence than any other factor.
Then you have abberations like the Sandy Hook and Batman shooters, both from affluent households and neighborhoods. This is why there is such media hype: If it could happen in "safe" neighborhoods, they want us to believe it could happen anywhere. Let's all run in fear and demand that the government keep us safe from priviledged lunatics!
Yet these bloated blowhards in government, who are leading the charge for gun control and eventual disarming of the population, run around with armed guards 24/7. When they give up their armed goons, maybe I'll listen to them.
Until then, they can all go suck a tailpipe.
The state with the highest murder rate is actually not a state at all, it is the District of Columbia, which has had exceptionally strict gun control for 25 years.
www.statemaster.com...
Is Virginia the Cause of DC's Problems?
Washington, D.C. has, perhaps, the most restrictive gun control laws in the country, and yet it has one of the highest murder rates in the nation.
Critics claim criminals merely get their guns in Virginia where the laws are more relaxed. This, they argue, is why the D.C. gun ban is not working.
Perhaps criminals do get their guns in Virginia, but this overlooks one point: If the availability of guns in Virginia is the root of D.C.'s problems, why does Virginia not have the same murder and crime rate as the District? Virginia is awash in guns and yet the murder rate is much, much lower. This holds true even for Virginia's urban areas, as seen by the following comparison on the 25-year anniversary of the DC gun ban (in 2001):
Murder rates: 25 years after DC's ban
Washington, DC
46.4 per 100,0001
Arlington, VA
2.1 per 100,0002
(Arlington is just across the river from D.C.)
Total VA metropolitan area
6.1 per 100,0003
Guns are not the problem. On the contrary, lax criminal penalties and laws that disarm the law-abiding are responsible for giving criminals a safer working environment
gunowners.org...
I would argue, like others, that poverty is a stronger indicator of gun violence than any other factor.
Then you have abberations like the Sandy Hook and Batman shooters, both from affluent households and neighborhoods. This is why there is such media hype: If it could happen in "safe" neighborhoods, they want us to believe it could happen anywhere. Let's all run in fear and demand that the government keep us safe from priviledged lunatics!
Yet these bloated blowhards in government, who are leading the charge for gun control and eventual disarming of the population, run around with armed guards 24/7. When they give up their armed goons, maybe I'll listen to them.
Until then, they can all go suck a tailpipe.
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 03:39 PM by intrepid
reply to post by WanDash
You brought up the cars, not me. And yes, intent is highly important in this. One is a stupid lapse in judgement. One is the intent to kill people. Secondly there seems to be a lot more bodies in a shooting than in a car crash.
You brought up the cars, not me. And yes, intent is highly important in this. One is a stupid lapse in judgement. One is the intent to kill people. Secondly there seems to be a lot more bodies in a shooting than in a car crash.
reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 04:28 PM by VictorVonDoom
Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by VictorVonDoom
OK. I'll use one of the gun advocates arguments then. If someone wants to defend themselves they will just do it with something other than a gun. Sounds lame, doesn't it? Same as saying that if someone is going to kill they will just find another way.
Exactly! If giving up guns will make us safer, then why don't cops give up theirs for their safety? I mean, cops don't need guns to do their jobs, they just need guns to protect themselves while they do their jobs. If Americans are expected to protect themselves whithout guns, can we ask no less of law enforcement officials?
You're right, that does sound kind of lame.
But then, as I recall Hitler found it expensive to shoot six million Jews. He thought gas chambers were far more economical. So maybe if someone is determined to kill they will find another way.
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