Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
reply to post by DelayedChristmas
Maybe it had something to do with free will.
I see a paradox, but if there is no paradox, why did the Buddha adhere to a strict vegetarian diet until his death bed?
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
The Buddha achieved enlightenment, and he went on to say that in order to reach enlightenment, you must get rid of attachment.
The question I bring forth is this: How could the Buddha achieve enlightenment when he was so attached to achieving enlightenment?
Interesting note: Buddha's death was caused by the consumption of bad pork and mushrooms. Because he adhered to a strict vegetarian diet, his students asked why he ate the bad pork and mushrooms served by the person that was housing him.
Discuss.edit on 18-12-2012 by DelayedChristmas because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
reply to post by Akragon
So he feared Karmic debt thus staying away from eating the flesh of a soul, but at his last meal, the Buddha was not so worried about consuming the bad pork and mushrooms.
My professor said that Buddha told his students that being a caring, compassionate person is the most important thing, hence why he did not refuse the poor, housing blacksmith's offer.edit on 18-12-2012 by DelayedChristmas because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
The Buddha achieved enlightenment, and he went on to say that in order to reach enlightenment, you must get rid of attachment.
The question I bring forth is this: How could the Buddha achieve enlightenment when he was so attached to achieving enlightenment?
Interesting note: Buddha's death was caused by the consumption of bad pork and mushrooms. Because he adhered to a strict vegetarian diet, his students asked why he ate the bad pork and mushrooms served by the person that was housing him.
Discuss.edit on 18-12-2012 by DelayedChristmas because: (no reason given)
Buddha made an error with suffering. Can suffering be eliminated? He made the choice to become a neutral. There are two directions to suffering, but there is also a neutral. Let me explain with a simple analogy.
If you smoke, you get cancer. This is because you take a reward that is not earned first. Taking makes us a thief so we SUFFER that result. Flip this. If we work out in the gym, we gain health. Why? We SUFFERED for the reward rather than suffering due to the debt of the thief. What did Buddha choose? Walk away from suffering. What can be produced positive if we simply stop the negative and positive motion? Buddha lacked an unbalanced force.
I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.
God operates by his own law.
III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
We reap what we sow. What if we fail to sow? What if we reap apart from sowing? You have your answer.
Buddha's at rest tends to stay at rest, and a Buddha in motion tends to stay in motion, with the same direction and speed unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.
Buddha was the way and eight-fold path of righteousness.
Philosophy is the Truth of Virtue.
Live is Christ and Suffering.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Buddha must be born again. Baptism is our immersion into the waters of life to repent. We must bear fruit to repent and suffering is required. If not, we face the unbalanced force of the flaming sword that protects the tree of life.
Genesis 3
23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
ALSO. Toil is suffering.
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
What did Buddha have to say on the topic:
Dhammapada Choices
We are what we think.
All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts we make the world.
Speak or act with an impure mind
And trouble will follow you
As the wheel follows the ox that draws the cart.
Buddha is still pulling the cart and the wheel of life is turning. The burden continues. An ox is an ox because it pulls the cart.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
reply to post by Akragon
So he feared Karmic debt thus staying away from eating the flesh of a soul, but at his last meal, the Buddha was not so worried about consuming the bad pork and mushrooms.
My professor said that Buddha told his students that being a caring, compassionate person is the most important thing, hence why he did not refuse the poor, housing blacksmith's offer.edit on 18-12-2012 by DelayedChristmas because: (no reason given)
From what i recall that was a mistranslation in the texts... The "bad pork" was actually "the food of pigs"... which is a truffle/mushroom...
I am going to bust your analogy of getting cancer from smoking cigarettes and hopefully, this would shed some light on my thought process.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by DelayedChristmas
I am going to bust your analogy of getting cancer from smoking cigarettes and hopefully, this would shed some light on my thought process.
More than 2,500 American Indians/Alaska Natives died of cancer in 2007
LINK
Did your distal phalanges really type that sentence with a straight face? Heat disease? High blood pressure. Asthma in children.
Answer me this. What is in the hand of 99% homeless person holding a sign, "Will work of for money?" What makes this true? The sign is a symptom of taking reward and incurring debt. Why do people end up on the road with a sign instead of with savings in the bank, bridges to family and opportunity from effort? They took reward instead of earning it by suffering first. Are there exceptions to the rule? Sure. A few will smoke and die of the diseases later than expected.
The concept of Lucifer as the “light-bearer” for the purpose of “enlightenment” is also inspired by ancient Egyptian mythology, Roman mythology, Greek mythology, Gnosticism and Western occultism, with a primary focus of the realization of “esoteric” or intuitive knowledge, while being attributed as the true way to salvation of the soul from the impure material world and eventual goal of ascension to the “divine being”.
Likewise, although the name itself or similar terminology of “Lucifer” is not used, this is also the fundamental spiritual belief and foundational premise for most all “Eastern” religions, such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc.
The GREAT DECEPTION
Rajneesh admitted, while under the influence of nitrous oxide, that there is no such thing as enlightenment. I cannot confirm this event through other contacts, but I assume Rajneesh was simply stating what U.G. Krishnamurti has said all along; that the storybook fiction we accept of a perfect enlightenment, full of infallible wisdom, is a big lie.
Osho, Bhagwan Rajneesh, and the Lost Truth
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
The question I bring forth is this: How could the Buddha achieve enlightenment when he was so attached to achieving enlightenment?
