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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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I have a question...can anyone explain this part of the story to me, because it's bugging me...so, Adams brother (ryan?) gets arrested , and questioned. He is described as being in camo and told a woman on the scene" I didn't do it" ....we'll ....why was he there? Why was a 20 yr old man at an elementary school at the time of the shooting? What's he doing hanging around the school? ...I don't get it? ...
now this may be reaching a bit...but...isn't that the classic scenario of the killer waiting in the crowd to see his a results? ...or ( now this is REALLY reaching) ...but what exactly did he mean by " I didn't do it" ... Does he mean he didn't do the shooting...or does he mean he didn't do what he set out to do...I didn't do it meaning, I didn't get it done....
But honestly, can anyone clarify why a 20 year old man in camo , the brother of the shooter, just happens to be hanging around the school? ..




posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Meldionne1
I have a question...can anyone explain this part of the story to me, because it's bugging me...so, Adams brother (ryan?) gets arrested , and questioned. He is described as being in camo and told a woman on the scene" I didn't do it" ....we'll ....why was he there? Why was a 20 yr old man at an elementary school at the time of the shooting? What's he doing hanging around the school? ...I don't get it? ...
now this may be reaching a bit...but...isn't that the classic scenario of the killer waiting in the crowd to see his a results? ...or ( now this is REALLY reaching) ...but what exactly did he mean by " I didn't do it" ... Does he mean he didn't do the shooting...or does he mean he didn't do what he set out to do...I didn't do it meaning, I didn't get it done....
But honestly, can anyone clarify why a 20 year old man in camo , the brother of the shooter, just happens to be hanging around the school? ..


I think you have your facts mixed up. Ryan, 24, was never in camo and never told a woman on the scene he didnt do it, as he wasnt there. He was quite a drive away.

Adam was there. Adam is 20. And Adam was there for one reason. To take everyone down with him. Thats all we know right now.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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You have to wear a mask when there is more than one shooter so nobody can say for sure they saw two different people at both scenes. My heart bleeds for these youngins but something stinks in these latest killings and it wreaks of involvement from parties that would wish to take away guns from the American public.
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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Then who was the " second person of interest" that the police arrested...the news showed / interviewed a woman who said Adams brother turned to me ( outside right after the shooting) and said " I didn't do it" ... And he was in camo.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Meldionne1
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Then who was the " second person of interest" that the police arrested...the news showed / interviewed a woman who said Adams brother turned to me ( outside right after the shooting) and said " I didn't do it" ... And he was in camo.


We don't know yet. But the police already confirmed that they picked up Ryan from his home. not in the woods. thus it was definitely not Ryan in the woods.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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That's news to me and hardly seems relevant.
I don't think Batman comes in to play here either.
I'm honestly trying to look at the facts along with the initial reports, police scanner transmissions and news videos to put together a picture of the events.
If that coincides with the OS, great. I'd love to spend my time on something else but given the importance of this event in the public's mind along with any looming new gun laws gives impetus to just how critical it is to get to the truth.

I wouldn't be asking so many questions if the initial reports weren't so wildly off the mark and the subject of the individual(s) arrested has not been addressed by officials. There's video of them chasing someone in the woods and arresting them along with eyewitness testimony backing it up.

It's the silence of the officials on that subject that gives me pause to question.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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A Bushmaster AR-15 IS NOT full auto, unless it has been illegally modified, but there have been no reports on that



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
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That's news to me and hardly seems relevant.
I don't think Batman comes in to play here either.
I'm honestly trying to look at the facts along with the initial reports, police scanner transmissions and news videos to put together a picture of the events.
If that coincides with the OS, great. I'd love to spend my time on something else but given the importance of this event in the public's mind along with any looming new gun laws gives impetus to just how critical it is to get to the truth.

I wouldn't be asking so many questions if the initial reports weren't so wildly off the mark and the subject of the individual(s) arrested has not been addressed by officials. There's video of them chasing someone in the woods and arresting them along with eyewitness testimony backing it up.

It's the silence of the officials on that subject that gives me pause to question.


In my skeptic thread on this subject, another mod backed up the sentiment that this video has become very important to the conspiracy theory behind the shooting. hence why I brought it up to you here in over looked evidence. This really is being looked at seriously by a lot of CT'ers here.

And of course the officials are being quiet, they usually are less than a week into the investigation.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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Okay...but...it's a small town..everyone knows everyone and their kids in small towns...this lady KNEW it was ryan that turned to her and said " I didn't do it" ...maybe he took off at that point and the police found him later at his home. ...it's too hokey to me that this lady knew it was ryan and said he was in camo. Why would she make that up?



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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I didn't read much past the OP but this same thing occurred to me yesterday when I heard that one boy was shot 11 times. Eventually someone in media or politics is going to be very vocal about this. My guess is soon after it's not so fresh in our minds (see: next mass shooting with too many coincidences)

Anyway, I'm sure when this does come up they will have "unreleased information" to cover their asses. The first thing that popped into my mind was this:


Or this: HELLSTORM 2000 trigger crank

Yes, I own variations of both. They make a trip to the range fun. No, I am not evil incarnate for owning them.
edit on 12/19/12 by Magnivea because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Meldionne1
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Okay...but...it's a small town..everyone knows everyone and their kids in small towns...this lady KNEW it was ryan that turned to her and said " I didn't do it" ...maybe he took off at that point and the police found him later at his home. ...it's too hokey to me that this lady knew it was ryan and said he was in camo. Why would she make that up?

Seeing as that you have had some facts wrong, could it be you have this wrong? Can you provide a link showing a witness stating she saw Ryan in the woods claiming it wasnt him? All I have read is that the police over the radio said they were chasing someone in the woods with camos and caught him and this person claimed I didnt do it. I also read the police stated they went to Ryans home to bring him in for questioning.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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Since when do sociopaths need a motive?

Jeffry Dahmer didn't need a motive.

It is really a silly reason. The psychopathic brain doesn't work the way a normal brain does. He has created some grievance in his mind, he hated the world for being against him, and he targeted the most vulnerable population for the greatest effect to show his anger.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Would have to agree, Being a gun person, that's a hell of a lot of rounds. The sheer weight of the tac vest ammo clips would be extreme. There's so many red flags on this one it's crazy. IMHO, if they gag order this case as like they did in Aurora . GIANT RED FLAG. I sat last night and read for about two hours about suicide and the method used to commit suicide. Most folks who commit suicide with a firearm, don't shoot their self in the face. Most put the gun up to the side of the head ( as so to take out both hemisphere's) or in the mouth. Very rare to put the gun up to face.

Has any one heard about a suicide note? And lastly. They say the mom was shot four times in the face with a .223 cal bullets. Obviously from very close range. Over kill, and there could not be much left of this victim's head.. The gun folks on here will understand this. When is the last time you heard that " they could not get anything off of a smashed harddrive". Look for the gag order folks. It;s gonna come. I think I will take some time today and do some weighing of ammo and firearms. Lets get an accurate weight this kid was supposed to have carried. Another thing in both shootings Aurora and Conn. The three best selling most popular firearms sold in America were used. Go figure.
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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Meldionne1
I have a question...can anyone explain this part of the story to me, because it's bugging me...so, Adams brother (ryan?) gets arrested , and questioned. He is described as being in camo and told a woman on the scene" I didn't do it" ....we'll ....why was he there? Why was a 20 yr old man at an elementary school at the time of the shooting? What's he doing hanging around the school? ...I don't get it? ...
now this may be reaching a bit...but...isn't that the classic scenario of the killer waiting in the crowd to see his a results? ...or ( now this is REALLY reaching) ...but what exactly did he mean by " I didn't do it" ... Does he mean he didn't do the shooting...or does he mean he didn't do what he set out to do...I didn't do it meaning, I didn't get it done....
But honestly, can anyone clarify why a 20 year old man in camo , the brother of the shooter, just happens to be hanging around the school? ..



Here are a couple of videos showing the man they pulled out of the woods. Notice he looks nothing like Ryan Lanza. The second one shows the man immediately.

www.businessinsider.com...

Does anyone know why he was exonerated? Was he just a hunter?



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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And Adam was there for one reason. To take everyone down with him. Thats all we know right now.
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you know what the MSM has told you. that is all.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by sweord



And Adam was there for one reason. To take everyone down with him. Thats all we know right now.
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you know what the MSM has told you. that is all.


But you know so much more. Signing up today, making your first post in this thread.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Meldionne1
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Okay...but...it's a small town..everyone knows everyone and their kids in small towns...this lady KNEW it was ryan that turned to her and said " I didn't do it" ...maybe he took off at that point and the police found him later at his home. ...it's too hokey to me that this lady knew it was ryan and said he was in camo. Why would she make that up?


This lady could have been in New Jersey and not a witness in CT. He was arrested in New Jersey, although I did hear he posted on facebook (or tweeted?) that he was heading to CT and that he had nothing to do with it.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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But you know so much more. Signing up today, making your first post in this thread.
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i know that you dont know. so yes.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
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Since when do sociopaths need a motive?

Jeffry Dahmer didn't need a motive.

It is really a silly reason. The psychopathic brain doesn't work the way a normal brain does. He has created some grievance in his mind, he hated the world for being against him, and he targeted the most vulnerable population for the greatest effect to show his anger.



No, but Dahmer had a terrible upbringing. I think the triggering factor was that his mother and brother moved away and left him one day while he was at school. His motive was loneliness. He stated he killed to keep his lovers from leaving him.

I don't know the motive of Adam Lanza. I would be interested to hear whether his mom treated him badly or if this was some personality disorder (or Aspergers..or Autism, etc..)
edit on 19-12-2012 by texasgirl because: had to clarify sentence



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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Ah.. but you are missing some things too.
There was a guy there that was arrested in camo, and he was taken in front of the parents and was saying "i didn't do it" there is video of his arrest and parents talking about it. He was in woods by the school in camo, they arrested him, and then not another word about him.





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