Overlooked evidence in School shooting

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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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My " nonsense" was a reply to you assuring me no motive is needed.
Which I know is impossible.
Something had to motivate the guy to get outta bed that morning.
If it was even him...




posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Thank you, that is good information.
The price sounds about right, they are ridiculously expensive.
Not that she couldn't have afforded it though - $250,000 annual alimony checks.
To turn the question around, if Adam Lanza did do it and it was a full auto - why would they NOT tell us?
I can't think of any good reason why.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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'The children all huddled in a corner'?
This goes against the 'lockdown' procedure that is taught to schools.

From my understanding with procedure, (verified in 3 different districts in 3 different states)...the children sit are informed to sit against the wall, underneath any open windows, with their feet and legs tucked in as close to their body as possible.

This is for anyone looking in through the windows. they would be unable to see anyone in said rooms, and hopefully pass on by.

I doubt very much that the children were all huddled on top of one another in the corner of a classroom.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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The story ive heard is that the rifle was found in the trunk of the car...locked up as it were...and the two to four handguns were the primary weapons used
Now i hear that all the casualties were suffering 223 cal wounds with 223 cal shells littering the area....
the suspect was supposedly found with two handguns....
The rifle was recovered from the trunk....so who had the 223 that did this crime?
We are getting way too much conflicting info and that in itself smacks of a cover up and an agenda.
Whee are all the mags?
He didnt have time to reload them i dont think....
Who were the other people arrested?
One in the woods and two the police confronted?
Also one seen by a child down on the ground in cuffs by the firestation?
the police are being far too tight lipped.....if this was an open shut case wed have better information by now.....



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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All I was doing was asking a question sir.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Just parroting what I heard on the day.
I did sit here and listen to the scanner and watch the msm and the alternatives that day.
Kids were huddled into a funnel.
Who knows, maybe the shooter had the children all get close to save his ammo.
Like I said before, there are soooo many unknowns in this tragedy.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Just found this , couldn't have possibly affected Lanza's actions, right?.

There have been reports that Lanza suffered from a personality disorder, was on the antidepressant Prozac,

presstv.com...



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
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You arent being skeptical sir, when you believe the mainstream story without evidence. That is incredulous.

When you go out of your way to explain everything away it isnt skepticism.

See you already have to believe a certain outcome to craft all explanations to fit around it.


When have I said believe only the msm? What are you talking about?



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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The shotgun was in the trunk, I saw the video of them removing it that night.
Why wait so long to search his trunk though?
Seriously........????
Not police procedure to wait 8 hours to search a perp's car.


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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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Once again I have something to share that I feel will be appreciated by those that seek to know, something about what we are not being told.

While I myself have also already done the logistical ammunition count, 30 rd magazine comparison and considered the weight factor, I have concluded much like this OP that there are inconsistencies in the official story.

Well, before we go counting bullets and noting all of the many flaws in the official story, consider the following two items of discussion.

I have two items to share are both related to one another and for the sake of brevity, the first item is that on the day of the shooting incident on the recorded 911 dispatch tape of the shooting incident there is a portion where multiple shadows or people are reported and then there is a segment where there is a cop talking to dispatch while cops are chasing 3 men.

On the 911 dispatch tape you can clearly hear him state, "they're coming at me...then two distinct pop...pop sounds that to me are clearly gun shots.

The 911 dispatch tape recorded what I feel is a cop discharging his weapon twice. It is at this point of the shooting that the 3rd man being chased is then seen on video running into the woods where he is eventually captured and handcuffed.

911 dispatch tape with cop stating they're coming at me...pop..pop
www.youtube.com...

Item two is that in a new video that shows CT Vance reporting about the two new wounded survivors days after the shooting. He states they suffered gun shot wounds and when asked details of the matter, Vance states that he cannot discuss it, because they are both witnesses.

New wounded identified as adults "witnesses" by CT Vance.
www.youtube.com...

Now the reasons these two videos and their information are important, is because the men CT Vance is referring to as being shot survivors, are I believe the two men that the cop shot during the 911 call on day one that was recorded on the 911 dispatch tape for all to hear.

Since they are not under arrest and are named by CT Vance as witnesses, it ignores the question of who shot them, when it appears that Adam Lanza had nothing to do with shooting them, since Adam Lanza was dead inside the school.

This incident on day one with the 3 men running and the one man who eventually runs into the woods are the same two men that the cop shot and since CT Vance has omitted any discussion of who shot them, I can assume he is not going to acknowledge that these two new wounded supposed survivors were in fact shot by law enforcement and not Adam Lanza.

In the 911 dispatch tape, moments after the cop can be heard discharging his weapon twice, we hear a request to dispatcher for two medical ambulances.

This is the information that CT Vance has not discussed and to declare that these two new wounded men are witnesses that cannot be identified because of the ongoing investigation, this is where we should ask why? And moreover, why was the 3rd man that ran into the woods who was part of the three men running, why was he released if his two running mates who were shot and then declared witnesses?

This omission of fact needs to be discussed, but to discuss it you must first understand it. Listen to both videos for a quick inform, but if you listen to the actual 911 tape you will see that the two new wounded men that Vance reported on are to me the two men that were shot by that cop on the 911 tape that was recorded for all to hear and where later two medical ambulances are called for of course, the two shot and wounded men.

It is time to ask hard questions and we should not allow for stonewalling to become the typical answer to our real questions that we need to discern the truth of what happened and why it appears Law enforcement is so eager to deceive the public with omission of information needed to understand how two men got shot, when Adam Lanza did not shoot them and the 911 tapes proves that a cop shot two men and then requested two medical ambulances for them.

It is time to end the charade and the lying. Not telling us the truth is not a matter of importance it seems, at least to me it appears as if we don't know anything of the real truth and when we ask why things are as they are, it is as if we don't need to know the truth. CT Vance should be made to explain how these two new wounded men got wounded and since they were not shot by Lanza, then his statement to the public that they are witnesses comes into question and so does the credibility of CT Vance.

Thanks for the thread.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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An examination of the gun and/or test firing will answer your question of whether it is full or semi auto. FWIW, he could have fired a semi auto weapon in rapid fire fashion making it defacto select fire. I am more concerned with the reports that all of the wounds and shell casings were .223 (5.56) but he was found with two handguns and the rifle was found in the car trunk. I doubt that he went back into the parking lot to put up his gun....it is more doubtful that the report is wrong but it (along with the "second shooter" arrest) needs to be clarified.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:33 PM
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Theoretically she could have purchased a registered full auto sear (thru BATFE procedures) and had a gunsmith install it making it full auto (but, if so, that fact would have come out by now). I think it was a semi auto and he pulled the trigger in rapid fire fashion.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
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To turn the question around, if Adam Lanza did do it and it was a full auto - why would they NOT tell us?
I can't think of any good reason why.

SIMPLE, fully auto weapons are very difficult (and expensive) to get. The BATFE process (with FBI background checks) is extensive and very few full auto weapons are ever used in a crime (at least since the tommy gun era). Since the agenda is to go after Semi Autos then if it was a Full Auto they would chose to ignore that fact. The police, however, should release that information in their press conferences.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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Isn't there a setting on automatic weapons for 3 round bursts? It would explain why each victim was shot 3 or more times.

It's hard not to take what I'm hearing in the news with a strong dose of skepticism. There's so much they keep from us in our allegedly free society.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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When I watched the police do there news report to the media, I remember hearing him say something about - "We will trace (or something like that) all the evidence to the guns right back to the bench?" or something like this? anyone can find some video footage of that? Why would they say someting like that about guns if there wasn't something up with the weapons in question?



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Where is his computer???

Mass murderers who plan on going down in flames dont destroy critical evidence.That computer will show if he was being manipulated and mind controlled remotely and by whom,we need Anonymous to hack the net and find out what was on that computer.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by one4all
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Where is his computer???

Mass murderers who plan on going down in flames dont destroy critical evidence.That computer will show if he was being manipulated and mind controlled remotely and by whom,we need Anonymous to hack the net and find out what was on that computer.


He supposedly smashed his computer with a hammer or something. But cops are trying to recover as much as they can from the hard drive



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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SOME auto weapons have a burst (3 rounds) setting on the selector switch, not all.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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Mainstream media is controlled and cannot be trusted,the JFK murder is being solved online and it looks like a coup de tat happened,Police brutality videos are all over youtube showing the TRUTH about what happens to people,our world is changing and we need more good men and women to step up and get ready to replace all the lieing crooked beestards that are entrenched in our world.

Obama knows what honesty is,so do we all,the truth will set you free and with the internet if you dont deal in truths you WILL be outed and held accountable.

The peoples court is in session on the internet 24/7/365,until they rip it from our dying hands.

Who is going to help America through this???Where are all the honest good men and women??



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Sly1one
I am thinking that Law enforcement have a spider web of an investigation going on right now and are trying to do panic damage control as they don't really even know what really happened or if others are involved and if others are involved they are keeping quiet about it to build their case without tipping the wrong people off to the investigation.


How I would love to learn that is the case. that it's not gross incompetence or intentional misdirection.
That would do wonders for my morale at this time.
I'm trying hard to remain logical about the whole thing, but damn....it just doesn't get any worse than this.





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