This is really interesting to speculate about... but bottom line, when pondering on this situation gives you no real solid conclusion, you can be sure of one thing.

The kids mom was apparently a doomsday prepper. Also, the victims of this shooting were very young kids.

You can bet this whole incident (planned or not) will unleash the government's true colors, and they will exploit this situation. Doomsday preppers are gonna be the bad guys, even more so now, and guns are gonna be Satan.

Watch it unfold.

All I know is that people with autism lose their mind when they hear loud noises, so the chances of an autistic guy shooting up a school are slim and none.

Originally posted by jamesrustles
This is what leads me to believe that the real shooter, probably shooters, were pros, and not this kid. They didn't leave any survivors. They didn't leave any real witnesses. And, all of the victims, to include the mother, were shot a minimum of 3 times.

If the shooter(s) were using a semi-auto, they were likely using a mozambique drill. This is a double tap to the chest, followed by an aimed shot to the head...3 shots. This is a method used by professionals to ensure the target does not survive.

If the shooters(s) were using automatic weapons, as the OP suspects, they were likely using weapons that only the government have. Yes, it's true that some people modify their weapons illegally to make them fully automatic. But that's just it, they only create FULLY automatic weapons. And, some people are fortunate enough to have one of the few registered NFA automatic weapons. But again, these are all FULLY automatic. The M4's and M16's that government agencies currently use are not fully automatic. They are only capable of firing 3 round bursts...the minimum number of times all of the targets were shot. Only government agencies have these current 3 round burst varients.

I agree that the minimum 3 shots per victim means that they were trying to leave no witnesses. Never heard of the Mozambique Drill, that is interesting.

I don't think an automatic weapon was used. The whole point of this was to conduct the entire operation with legally available guns. An AR-15 is a very powerful gun that can be shot quite rapidly (even faster if there are 2 people shooting 1 each!).

We need to realize, why would this father have anything to do with this horrific event? though the truth is
why would any sane person have anything to do with this?

That's simple. He was paying over a quarter million a year in alimony, which he would pay the rest of his life or until Nancy remarried, unless they had some specific agreement in their contract for divorce, which I did not read.

If she made it clear she had no intentions of remarrying, and was simply going to shack up with someone to assure she kept her alimony coming in, it could easily anger the father. Not saying this is a fact and what happened, just saying it has certainly happened hundreds of thousands of times over in the US.

Money does strange things to even "sane" people. He may have been of the opinion that the children were grown, and enough was enough. These are factors which are unknown at this point.

Usually, the parents are the first suspects in something like this, hence why he was taken in for questioning. Just because there has been no arrest (yet) doesn't mean there won't be.

This is also exactly why the bodies were not removed from the school for almost 48 hours. They had to work it as a crime scene, because that is what is was. Somehow, people thought that because the "lone shooter" was dead, they could just run in and mop up the mess.

Until every angle is investigated and cleared for certain, then all angles remain possible suspect.

I don't recall anyone being cleared officially. Only released.

Keep that in mind.

Originally posted by winofiend
I think it's the same marksman as the guy who set up martin bryant.

There is no way a dumb dumb could shoot with such proficiency in such a small space.

Smells of the government trying to take your guns away like they did here. Now it's illegal to have guns here.

You're next.

Ok, first.. a person with aspergers is NOT a dumb dumb. They are usually unable to read social queues such as facial expressions and jokes, etc.. They cannot tell if you are joking, mad, sad.. etc. Most have exceptionally high IQs ranging in 140s and above. Of the ones I have met, they are the most frustrating persons I know but not usually violent. Self-centered maybe, but not usually violent. If anything they get confused when you show great anger towards them for their lack of understanding basic human emotions such as hurt and humilation that they have caused you unintentionally.

Granted I have only met a limited number.. around 5 that I know of. I dated a man that I am almost positive had aspergers and he was a very very proficient hunter. Whatever they become focused on (to the point of an obsession) they become VERY VERY good at. I would imagine if he became interested in shooting.. he would be the best there is. That is how their brain works. It is believed that Einstein may have had Aspergers.

The point.. he is no dumb dumb. Just very socially inept and probably fed up with people calling him names and not understanding social ques enough to tell his tormenters to "F" off and letting it go.

In no way am I standing up for his shooting kids. I have a hard time understanding how anyone can kill a child. I live in a rough neighborhood and, on occasion, Lord knows the younger kids in the neighborhood have ticked me off to the point of sounding like a raving lunatic due to their lack of manners and roaming the streets like a pack of lazy butt dogs. But I, as most people, do not understand how this young man went to a supposedly unconnected school and just shot a bunch of children.

All I can do is wait until more information is available before I can make a informed decision that helps me to put this in the past...to get past the tragedy.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Here is my problem with motive...

The kids profile leads me to suspect a vengence motive, like maybe payback for being mistreated.

But then you see location. He didnt even know these ppl but choose this target specifically. Why?

The motive that fits his profile doesnt fit the location or methodology.

No real apparent motive for Lanza that's true, but if you look at the political motives and muse on what target(s) could promote 100% revulsion, horror and extreme outrage from the public, in terms of advancing a political agenda..a school full of children being slaughtered is hard to beat. (you know what i mean)

If i were a cold blooded, cynical scumbag sociopath, a politician for example, who for reasons yet unknown had a political objective of separating Americans from their rights to weapons, there would be no 'better' target than children to forment a wave of outcry demanding gun controls.

Just as 9/11 formented outrage in Americans, and caused them to essentially demand retaliation against 'the terrorists', which led to over a decade of full on warfare in the Middle East, i believe the same is hoped for in this situation...the public demanding to be relieved of their rights and weapons...and asap too.

An old folks home would be a second choice target, but wouldn't have the same emotional impact as killing children.

There's a motive here, but it isn't revenge.

Officialdom doesn't care the OS is like a Swiss cheese. The 9/11 OS is also a Swiss cheese, but that hasn't held up or hindered the agenda of dissolving freedoms and rights, one bit.

The flakey OS in this massacre likewise won't make a difference to the agenda either (whatever it ultimately is, but a gun free citizenry looks to be it to me).

Who was it who once said 'The most effective way to install tyranny, is to make the people demand it'...i think we're seeing that being played out here...again.