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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Yeah they did he had Asperger's syndrome wich is similar to autism and classed in the same category but most not all doctors say is completely different
Asperger's Syndrome is a neurologically-based developmental disorder. The exact cause is unknown, but experts believe it is a complex condition involving multiple genetic and environmental components--no one gene or single environmental factor causes AS. Asperger's Syndrome is similar in many ways to autism. These two disorders are grouped together in a category called Autistic Spectrum Disorders (ASD). The disorders are also referred to as Pervasive Developmental Disorders (PDD).

Despite early theories suggesting the possibility, we now know that parenting style does not cause any of the Autism Spectrum Disorders. The number of individuals affected by Asperger's Syndrome is not well known, as an accurate diagnosis can be difficult to make. Estimates are typically reported for the autism spectrum disorders in general, and these range from 1 in 150, to 1 in 1,000 individuals affected. There is a significant gender difference--males receive the diagnosis up to four times more often than females for reasons that are not well understood.

Characteristics:

Individuals with AS typically exhibit a variety of characteristics that directly affect their ability to relate meaningfully to others. These can range from mild to severe, and affect three primary areas of development: social skills, conversational language and rigid, repetitive behavior. Specifically, individuals with AS tend to be highly focused on topics of interest to them, often endlessly rambling to anyone who will listen. Their ability to appreciate other peoples' perspectives or to understand the subtle and nonverbal cues of communication (e.g., tone of voice, facial expression) is quite limited, leading them to make frequent social errors. Additionally, demonstrating the usual nonverbal "social graces" of a conversation is often lacking in the individual with AS. They may have difficulty maintaining eye contact, seem distracted, and may not respond with head nods or smiles to indicate they are paying attention, seeming aloof and uninterested.

One of the traits that differentiate individuals with Asperger's from those with autism is language development. In autistic children, language is often absent, lost, limited, or very slow to develop. In children with Asperger's, however, language development often falls within normal limits. They frequently develop excellent vocabularies, often beyond their developmental age, and their ability to use syntax and grammar appropriately may be unaffected. Yet, these same children have difficulty with the practical or social aspects of language. Family members often report that a child may be able to talk one-sidedly in great detail about something of interest to them, but they do not engage family members in true two-way conversation. Instead, there is limited or awkward turn-taking, and the natural "give and take" in the conversation is missing.

Despite wanting to have friends and engage with others, the awkward attempts and social deficits of individuals with AS often make them the outsider in their peer groups. Young children are often bullied or made the butt of mean-spirited jokes. Older children and adults may simply be ostracized. Their repeated, but often rebuked attempts at friendships, and their painful awareness of their differences from their peers, often lead individuals with AS to develop anxiety and/or depression.

Despite normal or above normal intellectual abilities, individuals with AS have styles of thinking that often limit them and cause them to "get stuck" in how they see the world. They can be quite rigid in their thinking, seeing things in only one way, or they may be very concrete and literal in their thinking, only seeing things in "black and white" terms, with little or no understanding of the more ambiguous "gray" in between--like knowing when and where to apply a rule such as saying, "Excuse me" when you want a turn to speak. They may not recognize the difference in using this to interrupt two adults speaking, versus breaking into a conversation with peers. Individuals with AS have difficulty with uncertainty and are often most comfortable with inflexible routines and rules.

Individuals with AS also have sensory and/or motor problems. They may have an awkward posture or step, have coordination problems, or be uncomfortable with certain sensory conditions (e.g., large crowds, noises, textures). This is similar to individuals with autism, but the degree to which it affects an individual with Asperger's is usually less severe.

Effects on Families and Relationships:

There is often a tremendous amount of stress on families (parents, grandparents, siblings) of children with Asperger's syndrome, as well as spouses who are married to adults with AS. Not everyone reacts similarly, nor do all families experience the full range of potential issues, but some of the issues to be aware of include the following:

Parents may experience a range of concerns and emotions as they attempt to understand what caused the disorder. They may ask, "Was it my fault?" and inappropriately assign self-blame. They may feel guilt and grief over having an individual in their family they love who will suffer a lifelong disability. They may wonder and worry about what others will think, and feel personally inadequate. They may fret about how they will explain AS to their family and friends, what can they do to help, and what financial resources will be necessary to help. And, they may worry about what will happen to this individual in the future, when the parents are no longer there to support him or her

Siblings may often feel embarrassed around peers, frustrated by not having the type of relationship with their sibling that they wanted or expected, and/or angry that the child with AS requires so much of the family's time and resources at their expense

Having a romantic or intimate partner with AS can affect the relationship in a number of ways, most notably in the areas of communication and emotional give-and-take. Incorrect assumptions made by the individual with AS often lead to self-protective strategies of distancing oneself entirely and then not responding at all to one's partner. An emphasis by the non-affected partner on expressing feelings is likely to lead to frustration and dissatisfaction

Treatments:

Treatments are not cures, but there are a number of different interventions that have been shown to be effective in reducing symptoms associated with AS. There are primarily three different environments for receiving services: schools, the physician's office, and various specialists' offices (including rehabilitation therapists, and mental health professionals). School districts are required to provide a range of services from support in the mainstream classroom to special education classes, depending upon the needs of the individual. A physician's treatment usually involves prescribing medication to address symptoms associated with AS: attentional issues, obsessive-compulsive issues, anxiety and/or depression. Rehabilitation therapists who might be involved with an individual with AS include speech-language pathologists, occupational therapists, vision therapists, and art or music therapists.

Psychologists and marriage and family therapists (MFTs) can be invaluable allies in the treatment process by helping individuals with AS address social skills, thinking skills, family issues, anxiety and depression. Cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) approaches can be effective for these issues. In performing couples therapy, MFTs can help the non-AS individual better understand what Asperger's syndrome is and how it affects their spouse/partner. Facilitating realistic expectations in both partners and developing effective communication skills and strategies are primary treatment issues for couples that include an individual with AS.

Where Does Asperger's Syndrome Get Its Name?

AS is a relatively new name for this complex condition first described in 1944 by Austrian physician Hans Asperger. Around the same time, a child psychiatrist named Leo Kanner was identifying individuals with what has come to be called "classic autism."


This text written by Diane Yapko, MA.

Use the AAMFT Consumer Update "Asperger's Syndrome" pamphlets to market your practice.




posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
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My wife brought up an interesting point in this; Who stands to win by this event? Sure, the obvious motivation would be for gun control, not unlike the British 1952 scenario. But get a little more mundane for a second. The alleged shooter had his brother's ID. The mother is dead and was very well off, with the "shooter" out of the way, the brother might stand to inherit the mother's wealth.

I would not put it past government (or NGO/Intel community) operatives to position the surviving brother with an idea, a win win situation if you will. The surviving brother gets paid off via the mother's estate and the government gets their push for gun control. It's not terribly unlike 911, Silverstein gets his insurance money and everyone else gets the Patriot Act, the NDAA and the alleged "war on terror." You can look at the drug trade the same way, the government mofifies the laws to pur people in prison easier so their buddies can make more money which at the same rime inflates the price of drugs because of its illegality while the intel community which controls the drug trade for the IMF/World Bank reaps all the profits. Too many coincidences in all of these scenarios means enemy action, to me anyway.

As an analogy, the government/NGO/Intel Comm/IMF is the hand that controls a ratchet, the ratchet is the surviving brother and the hex socket is the alleged "shooter." If the ratchet or the socket breaks during the operation (so far just the socket), the hand mearly has to drop the tools. The question becomes, whose fingerprints are on the ratchet? Another thing to look at from a "handler" standpoint is, where is the father positioned in all this?

Just a thought...

Cheers - Dave
edit on 12/19.2012 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)


One more thing Peter Lanza Adams father is a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, according to his LinkedIn profile. yet just another connection between all the shootings and the banking industry.
Why does this not surprise me at all! Well maybe cause the banking industry has the most to lose if there ever is a revolution in the US! This would be a good reason to want to get rid of guns! why now you ask? Could be becuase we are on the verge of large scale asterity cuts, tax increases and maybe even close to a crash of
the US economy! If the warning signs are there, there would be many people trying to purchase weapons for protection! This is just a thought and may mean nothing at all but i find it odd how many people have been connected to the banking industry and all these shootings!



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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No one has chimed in on my earlier post.. I haven't found anymore data on the guy fleeing the scene into the woods in camo pants and a dark jacket. They apprehended him, there was even video of it from a helicopter. What happened to that guy?



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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A few thoughts......and updates......
Just reported on FOXNEWS......a 25 year old former Marine says the kid was mad that his mom cared more about the kids at school she volunteered for than him and that he saw that court papers that she was preparing to have him committed.......How does your kool aid taste folks??? We now have motive........

Also I posted a few things here if anyone wants to review.....see posts from 8:49 on

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The guy that had 6 children run to his house is very important they are key living witnesses if we can get the truth out of them. It appears they have already been compromised though along with this man.

The Atlantic Sun has a report debunking virtually all the recent conspiracy theories to include explaining the gunman in the woods was a father of one of the children. That is blatantly false......he would not have run from police .......AND the police are heard on the radio saying they had parents behind the dumpster. This is BS they are trying to make this guy go away.

Also reported on tv today a geneticist has been called in to examine Lanza to determine exactly what he had but it looks like the Aspergers theory is not true. It has already been reported by an uncle he was taking a very dangerous drug called Fanapt.

www.businessinsider.com...
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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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The hypothesis that individuals with Aspergers syndrome are predisposed to violent or criminal behavior has been investigated and found to be unsupported by data.[1][13] More evidence suggests children with Aspergers syndrome are victims rather than victimizers.[14]


www.autism-help.org...



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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We shall never know my friend



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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I thought the principal or superintendent also stated that they had no record of Lanza's mother being a teacher or involved with the school.... So perhaps another discrepancy to examine.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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He was paying her 280,000 a year..if all these innocent kids didn't die you know who would be number 1 suspect Peter lanza



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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My wife is an intervention specialist and has repeatedly said that Aspergers DOES NOT make kids violent, in fact the complete opposite is true from her experience. She works with kids with these conditions all day, everyday and does not feel that this is what he had. So I concur, the Aspergers diagnosis is not correct.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy

Originally posted by Gattacanian
I think that it is time that we as the ATS community gather a list of people that seem likely to mysteriously "die" over the next few years. Anyone wanna bet the coroner is dead in a year?


Yeah, sure. I'll take you up on that bet. Give me some info on the age and relative health of the coroner, but overall, I'll bet he's alive and well.


What are you guys gonna like pay each other over PayPal or something



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Additionally, I think it's important to keep in mind the tactics the media used in the past to hide information.

I had a big thread back during the Aurora shooting that revealed blatant cover-ups or omitting data that was previously reported without retractions.

HERE

I think we all need to save anything we think could be misinterpreted or construed in a different fashion. Any key reports should be archived. Take screenshots, save videos, anything you can to see the story from start to end.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by ZiggyMojo
My wife is an intervention specialist and has repeatedly said that Aspergers DOES NOT make kids violent, in fact the complete opposite is true from her experience. She works with kids with these conditions all day, everyday and does not feel that this is what he had. So I concur, the Aspergers diagnosis is not correct.




The hypothesis that individuals with Aspergers syndrome are predisposed to violent or criminal behavior has been investigated and found to be unsupported by data.[1][13] More evidence suggests children with Aspergers syndrome are victims rather than victimizers.[14]



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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I also found this:

www.dailymail.co.uk...

The tragic last school picture of first graders who were gunned down by Sandy Hook shooter with their substitute teacher

I was just reading a news report has stated the girl in the middle survived.....she was found alive laying in the blood and bodies. That poor child.......



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gattacanian
I think that it is time that we as the ATS community gather a list of people that seem likely to mysteriously "die" over the next few years. Anyone wanna bet the coroner is dead in a year?

If history is any guide, one or two people related to this event will die within the year. That is to 'send a message' to the remaining people to keep their mouths shut.
edit on 19-12-2012 by starviego because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Cerberus Capital to sell all assets in firearms including the manufacturer of the Bushmaster.

Cerberus also linked to GE Financial.

The father of Stephen A. Feinberg of Cerberus Martin Feinberg lives in the small town of Newtown Ct,

Link between Cerberus and the Shooting

So the owners of the company Cerberus that owned the manufacturer of the firearm had lots of ties to the small town.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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To me this has the ingredients of a terrorist cover up. The police officer states on the police scanner that he has "they're comin' at me, comin up the driveway left side!". Then says, "I got 'em proned out". Keep in mind 'Proned out' refers to an apprehended suspect laying face down on the ground. And you can notice police chasing an individual in the woods, who runs from the police if your child is inside the building. Seems dodgy that the parents arrived on the scene and we're just poking around the building before the police arrived. If so-get these police some vehicles that can reach speeds at a rate over 5 miles per hour.
Also, the child witness describes hear loud thumps outside the room quickly followed by police asking if he was in their. Then as he was being evacuated noticed a person in handcuffs. A child witness tends to be pretty credible at that age. Also, theirs a gentleman on the news soon after informing the reporter that he saw a mean in fatigues escorted out by officers and put in the front seat of the car, the individual was yelling-"I didn't do it".
I find the news to troll around miss-info all to frequently, just trying to come up with some motive. Trying to link the mother to the school. The superintendent on record stated, that their is no record of the mother ever working for the school. If the mother is a gun enthusiast...then ok...doesn't explain how she could afford or could get her hands on an arsenal that the conn. national guard probably doesn't
-considering she was living off of alimony.
Why weren't the parents allowed to see the bodies, I understand this weapon does quit some damage, especially when being shot three times. But really, still wanted to see their child. And how in the heck is this kid pegging shots at kids three times on each kid? Was he that good and that quick to get to each room, dressed better then our black op units. Must have really honed his skills from nintendo duck hunt. The gun quantity is rather confusing as well. More and more weapons seem to be glued into this sequence of events. This was a thin kid, who was no athlete-yet he was more agile then rambo from first blood.
Just doesn't add up to me, seems as though they don't want any terrorist attention at the moment.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Here is another interview with this guy who had the 6 kids and yet he still isn't telling the truth. This time he fails to mention the kids said anything about guns and nothing about the guy who was standing by them yelling.

foxnewsinsider.com... own-shooting/



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Fully automatic is inaccurate and you have to jerk the trigger or you will empty magazine real quick. I can't see this kid doing that.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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i am just disbelieving the fact that ever since obama was in office there have bein so many shootings like this and he has always wanted to ban firearms see how he jumped to the assult weapons ban so fast how did he know he used a assult weapon at that time we didnt even know the shooters name yet something is not right with this shooting it stinks just like the movie theater shooting they keep saying each time there where two shooters then they back track and say there was one shooter WHAT IS GOING ON .



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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@smoking
Your right in his other statements he the children mention how many guns he had, "a big one and small one"-but will never know how many guns we're their, it always changes. And in his latest statements he didn't really no what happened until he saw the teacher among the list. Some trained psychologist
He just stayed in his house until the reporter came to his house, this guy doesn't react to much very quickly.
How about the police chasing a maroon can quickly after, both men we're apprehended wearing black masks.



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