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A Glimpse At Dark Matter




Topic started on 24-10-2004 @ 05:52 PM by Durden


According to a discovery to be published in The Astrophysical Journal, Douglas Finkbeiner who is astronomer at Princeton University, has been detecting microwave radiation across the whole sky, coming from the center of the Milky Way. While he isn't sure what causes the radiation, he proposes it may actually be a view of dark matter.



"The WMAP team cares about the cosmological signal and has carefully removed the foreground signals so they don't interfere with it," says Finkbeiner, "but these foreground signals are interesting in their own right."

According to WMAP scientists, non-cosmological microwaves could come from ionized hydrogen in our own Milky Way Galaxy, interstellar dust, and from the fast electrons found in supernova remnants. But Finkbeiner set out to quantify these local sources to see if, together, they match the non-CMB component of WMAP's observations.

They do, he found, with one interesting exception: An unexplainable haze surrounds the center of the Milky Way, extending out to about 20º on the sky. If you take account of its strength at different wavelengths, this radiation looks like what ionized hydrogen atoms emit — only there aren't enough of those around. The radiation also looks like what would be emitted by fast electrons in a magnetic field — but they would have to be moving near the speed of light.

And that's what gave Finkbeiner the idea that he might have discovered the signal of dark matter. He has put forward his theory in an as-yet-unpublished paper and at a conference on dark matter held in Edinburgh, Scotland, in September.


Read more and view quite an amazing image at astronomy.com



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reply posted on 24-10-2004 @ 06:35 PM by markjaxson


No matter how much i read about Dark Matter i still cannot grasp what it really is.

I just cannot find a decent explanation about what it is, and if we cannot see it then whats the point in trying to find out about it/getting an image of it etc.

Good image though amazing technology these days to capture something like that.



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reply posted on 24-10-2004 @ 06:40 PM by Durden



Originally posted by markjaxson
I just cannot find a decent explanation about what it is, and if we cannot see it then whats the point in trying to find out about it/getting an image of it etc.

I suppose the best answer to that is that we know so little about dark matter that we want to know more; hence try to get images of it etc.



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reply posted on 24-10-2004 @ 08:24 PM by jhh


Since we don't have the right to question Einstein and Newton, we have invented a massive, invisible object to explain a discrepancy.

Science is just as bad as religion as far as being close minded. Now if this man said their is something wrong with the laws of motion, his career would be finished.

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reply posted on 27-10-2004 @ 07:22 AM by genesiss



Originally posted by jhh
Since we don't have the right to question Einstein and Newton, we have invented a massive, invisible object to explain a discrepancy.

Science is just as bad as religion as far as being close minded. Now if this man said their is something wrong with the laws of motion, his career would be finished.

[edit on 24-10-2004 by jhh]


i completely and totally agree with that statement, so few people understand this basic concept



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reply posted on 27-10-2004 @ 07:34 AM by Gear


is Dark Matter the same as Anti Matter?



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reply posted on 27-10-2004 @ 08:25 AM by Durden



Originally posted by Gear
is Dark Matter the same as Anti Matter?

Anti-matter is essentially like ordinary matter (same masses of all the particles as well as the same kinds of nuclei and elements) but with all the charges reversed, so the the positron (anti-electron) has a positive charge and the anti-proton's charge is negative.

As to Dark Matter, matter emitting light or radio waves or other EM radiation is called non-dark matter. When the amount of mass represented by the non-dark matter is estimated, seemingly there isn't enough matter to close the universe so to speak, that is, to have the expansion of the universe sometime slow down and have the universe start to collapse.

Here is a link if you'd like to read more about it.


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reply posted on 27-10-2004 @ 09:45 AM by amantine



Originally posted by jhh
Since we don't have the right to question Einstein and Newton, we have invented a massive, invisible object to explain a discrepancy.

Science is just as bad as religion as far as being close minded. Now if this man said their is something wrong with the laws of motion, his career would be finished.


Oh please, people have proposed that the laws of motion are wrong. That theory is called Modified Newtonian Dynamics, or MOND. MOND works well for the rotation curves of galaxies, but there is no good physical explanation and the evidence isn't exactly overwhelming.

People have also proposed that general relativity is no good explanation for gravity on very large scales. Actually, no serious physicist still thinks Newton or Einstein was right. General relativity is a classical theory and does not work well on extremely small scales.

You are being close minded here, because you assume things about scientists, without even bothering to check if they have questioned those laws.



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