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Has the Republic known as the United State of American been overthrown by Communism?

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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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Please explain to me how america is a "socialist" nation, because I just don't see it.




posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Cameras everywhere.

Nazis feeling you up at the airport violating your Constitutional rights under the Fourth Amendment.

The Patriot Act and its inherent violations of the Constitution.

National health care.

We already know the government and Big Business are one and the same. The two can barely contain their glee. Research the Federal Reserve if you doubt this.

You can't speak your mind.

They don't want you to own guns.

My God, the Bill of Rights has been decimated. Are you blind?

Freedom is stolen one thing at a time.
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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What you are describing is just authoritarian capitalism or an oligarchical plutocracy. We don't fully have a nationalized healthcare system yet sadly, and even if we did; that is the only point that would resemble socialism, and that, in itself, would be a very minor aspect.

Allow me to provide the Merriam-Webster definition of Socialism.


so·cial·ism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
Not going on...


2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
Nope.


3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Definitely not...

source



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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The president has openly identified himself as a Socialist. What do you suppose his goal is?
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
you list what is, without listing the reasons they were put into law, and the legislative battles fought from both sides.
i know a now-retired accountant of 40+ years of experience say to me that if you didn't have the inheritance tax, the extremely wealthy would own 99% of all property in america within 4 generations.
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I must tell you that I am glad you are not my CPA but then you said you were an accountant...a bookkeeper and obviously know nothing about how the super wealthy invest and more their money offshore to say nothing of Tax Exempt Foundations and Tax Havens. I am not going to try to educate you but don't fool yourself, you are a Socialist in denial about being a Communist. I will also promise you, that not two cents of what I have earned will go to supporting any of you.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Well he's a social democrat, but he also does quite a bit against the socialist ideology. As far as the goals of socialists go I would be completely fine with that. I AM a communist.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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reply to post by boot2theface
 

That's nothing to be proud of.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by KoolerKing
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You spelled Kurt Russell's name wrong.


Have another beer and go back to sleep.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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You have literally not addressed any of the opposition leveled against you in this entire thread. Do you plan to?



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:49 PM
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reply to post by PrplHrt
 


It just depends on how you believe society should be organized my friend. Individualism, selfishness, and competition against collectivism, community, and compassion.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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Yeah, I saw how compassionate the Soviets were. I saw them starve their people, roust them out of their beds in the middle of the night. People disappeared constantly and were never seen again. The KGB was vicious.

Either you're too young to remember or you've forgotten.

And if you're a Communist you are not my friend. You are my enemy.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by boot2theface
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You have literally not addressed any of the opposition leveled against you in this entire thread. Do you plan to?


Opposition? I have no interest in addressing anything, particularly from someone like you to whom words are not the answer. You just stand right where you are and I am sure someone will give you an answer, although I doubt it will be the answer you want but your username does ring a bell


as a former Marine Corp officer, whose boot do you think is going to be in whose face..dreg.
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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This a typical response. I would like to point out, though, that from the moment Stalin took power the soviet union ceased to be a communist nation and was in fact an authoritarian state capitalist nation. An oligarchy if you will.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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I don't give a damn what you call that way of life. People shouldn't have to live that way.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by PrplHrt
reply to post by boot2theface
 

Yeah, I saw how compassionate the Soviets were. I saw them starve their people, roust them out of their beds in the middle of the night. People disappeared constantly and were never seen again. The KGB was vicious.

Either you're too young to remember or you've forgotten.

And if you're a Communist you are not my friend. You are my enemy.


My wife is from Belarus,from a well educated and as she says, a Classic Family. She says the lack of goods, of basic things people need was one of the worst things about living under Soviet Rule but what was worse, was the hopelessness, the being trapped with no escape. Her escape was me when I brought her here and now even she wants us to leave because America has all the signs and it will get worse and worse. She worries I will wait too long..maybe I should listen.



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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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I have read Nineteen-eighty four several times. It is a masterpiece of dystopian fiction. The society it speaks of comes from a capitalist oligarchy though. It does not speak of communism. Orwell was indeed a socialist himself, as were many of the worlds greatest intellectuals. From your response I would guess if you had your way you would just kill anyone who disagrees with you. That is Fascism. YOU are the enemy of true freedom.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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Stop trying to waste my time and get attention.
Dude who started this thread?

go clean your room up or help your mother.
Now you are going to try to attack me personally? I'm married and have lived on my own since I was 18.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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That gal ought to know. Where can you go though? They're everywhere, like ticks on a hound.

I see he's too young to have seen it with his own eyes. Just follows blindly. What a fool.
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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You have no appreciation for what you've been given.

Who the hell do you think fights for your right to spew the garbage you spew?





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