Americans Must Watch; The true sentiment of the British!

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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Thanks for your contribution, i'll just heap it ontop of all the other people who made the same point in all the other threads.




posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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If you are British I suggest you rise above this thread. We know this video is inaccurate, trying to convince Americans otherwise is a lost cause. Remember we have matured over many years, America just needs to grow out of the teenage years.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Well the 2nd amendment is part of our constitution which was made possible by a certain revolution of which I would imagine you are familiar with, as to what makes me think that we would lose our other freedoms I would say history does. Nazi Germany, Russia, China, etc......



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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This is like the British equivalent of the Tea Party I'd imagine.

Which means they are the crazy old pissed off population that the masses do not agree with.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Maxatoria
Theres 1,000,000 (a million roughly) people with legal access to firearms in the UK so to consider the fact that probably 1 in 60-70 has access to a weapon doesn't make us quite the disarmed country that people think we are and if thats the ratio for one of the most hardcore anti weapon countries in the world we aint that unarmed should we need it for defense and there's 4 shops at least within a short drive that sell guns and if i needed to tell the state to f---off then i'd be able to be armed withing an hour



In this scenario you described are you the only one that needs to tell he state to F off? If you are not let me ask are you the closest person to these stores if you are not then I hope you can fight very well and dodge bullets because you will not be the only person there. Usually the first come first served applies in those situations. You think it would be nice and orderly where everyone shares? Thanks for the laugh because that is the most naive thing I have heard in weeks.


Try being prepared.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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consider white south africans and white zimbabweans. that's the future of white people everywhere. they are just the working test model atm. the royals and rulers, are actively engaged in planning genocide of the caucasian people and the dumbing down of the survivors. without weapons, our elderly, infirm and young will have no defense, just as the 20 elementary students in sandy hook and the countless whites in south africa and zimbabwe. and it's growing, exponentially, across the globe. why else would the democrats and marxists use skin color as a means to move their agenda? even if they are themselves, white, they have been methodically planning this genocide for decades.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by jimmiec
reply to post by templar knight
 


Noted. Don't send weapons/ammo to the UK if they are attacked. England did not mind begging for weapons and ammo when Hitler was beating their door down. No, they dragged America into their war. We lost countless lives and the American people suffered greatly to secure your freedoms. You simply don't have a horse in this race.



You were not dragged into anything….. once you realised that the fall of Britain would secure the Nazis preparation for an eventual attack on the USA you SOLD us the resources to hold them at bay until their expansionist dogma could be nullified.
We were still paying the USA for lend lease until the 1980,s whereas dollars poured into Germany for rebuilding under the marshall plan.
Like all mercenaries, you got your pay.
Many brits render as an irrelevancy these points and are just thankful to the Americans who felt this wasn’t an issue and decided on principle to assist us, even at such a cost to themselves and their loved ones.
Don’t get too comfortable in your moral high ground as I feel your present economic circumstances will soon offer you opportunity to expand on your love of self-help on the home front.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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I've got other weaponry which is legal in the UK so i'm not going to be a noob unarmed



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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The war in Europe was won by the Soviets.

But this is rather off-topic.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Maxatoria
reply to post by Grimpachi
 


I've got other weaponry which is legal in the UK so i'm not going to be a noob unarmed


in the interest of good relations, you might want to choose a different signature quote. otherwise, i'll have to assume everything you say is also as xenophobic as the quote. it doesn't speak highly of you considering, i have often been a fan of british scholars, musicians and authors, and i'm fairly certain they weren't as xenophobic as you appear to be.
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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The truth is that guns are a non-issue in the UK and there has never been a major call from the masses to repel the current status quo to gun ownership. Even when handguns were banned, there was never a backlash of enough magnitude to sway the politics of the day. Guns are synonymous with hunting in the UK and although there is a very serious issue in regard to the black market availability of guns and gangs, the UK has never and probably will never rise up to demand the kind of weaponry America and other countries make available to its citizens.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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Yes, but the 1776 War Of Independance had absolutely nothing to do with The Right To Bear Arms, it wasn't an issue.

As for losing other freedoms; you fail to mention the numerous nations that don't have the equivallent of a Second Amendment and have at least as comparable freedoms as the USA - as for the nations you mention, it was the political ideology that brought about the loss of freedoms.

In the highly unlikely event that an overtly authoritarian and dictatorial administration was ever to gain control in Washington D.C. do you honestly think your handguns and hunting rifles would make any significant difference?

I genuinely hope we never have to find out.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Only fools give up their guns. Criminals always goan have 'em! Only thing a gun ban solves is effectively neutering the law abiding citizens from protecting their homes, property and family, 'cuz i guarantee, Black Market always goan be in business an' bidness be explodin' when guns get banned.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:49 PM
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Our Founding fathers were very wise and they saw that the only way to keep our freedom from government tyranny was an armed populace.


Really?

Do you really think you have any more freedom than we in the UK do because you can carry a gun around with you?

I'm not having a pop at you, I'm genuinely interested.....what freedoms do you think US citizens have that we in the UK don't have on the basis that you can carry guns and we can't?

And how is your government any less tyrannical than ours is?.....I'm failing to see the correlation between mass gun ownership and limited gun ownership and a tyrannical government



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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Message to the 2nd Amendment obsessives... put up or shut up.

You all go on about the 2nd Amendment protecting you from 'tyranny' and giving you the tools you need to overthrow the government when you need a new one...

...yet you never follow through, do you?

You bitch and moan about your rights being stripped by the federal government, how the government robs you through taxation, how the government in cahoots with the 'liberal' media tramples on your precious heritage and is trying to turn you into a socialist state, how the government.... and so on and so...

And what do you do? Other than endlessly talk (on the internet mostly) about how you're armed and will protect your family and your country and your Constitution when the time is right?

Time to put up or shut up.

Go on, overthrow this federal government that you apparently so despise! This oppressive state that is destroying America and your children's future!

Come on, you lot have been using the 2nd Amendment and the words of Ben Franklin for decades to justify your right to be armed and ready!

So get on with it! Look if people less well-armed than you - the Egyptians, for example - can overthrow their oppressive government, why can't you? Just arrange a convenient date and march on Washington DC. Come on, what's stopping you?

If you truly believe that the 2nd Amendment is your defence against a rogue government and a rogue President (which you all seem to hate) then put your money where your mouth is.

Or are you just all-mouth-and-no-trousers?
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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you use 1 video that likely suits your own view and state it is the view of (ALL) british ... that sir, is quite pathetic in my view ..
PS - i didnt watch the video either .. i cant be bothered .. its a topic that doesnt even interest me ..
Just wanted to chime in and say .. how dare you decide what my view is ... i will decide that ... and for the record .. my view is .. im against all guns .. end of .. no ifs or buts



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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Northern Ireland is part of the UK and since the end of all hostilities there has been an obvious drop in gun crime, before the troubles ended the average deaths by gun was around 5.6 per 100,000 of the population and now it sits at around 0.2 average over the past 10 years. There are over 100,000 personal protection weapons issued in Northern Ireland today not including shotguns, and ALL police carry weapons in the street daily. There are an undisclosed amount of illegal weapons still in circulation although the heavier weapons such as automatic rifles, grenades, rpg's and machine guns have mostly been handed in to police under the Good Friday Agreement.

I come from Northern Ireland and have witnessed many atrocities including bombings and the aftermath, if you ask me and many others in NI then we all would say the same thing REMOVE ALL GUNS from our streets. Only Americans know what is best for their country, we can all give our opinions but that is all they are and are based on limited understanding of the culture and feelings of the people.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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reply to post by ajay59
 


Well done, your poll of 1 person out of 67 million must mean the British think that!



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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reply to post by PvtHudson
 


Quite right....by the looks of it, you lot certainly seem to be doing really really well.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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reply to post by Severin
 


Wouldn't that be biggest stones? They're always bigger and better aren't they?? Lol





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