I think it's kind of hard to compare the two countries strictly off population, murder rate or crime rate. The US has five times the population and
while I don't know the numbers offhand, I would wager there are far more areas in the United States with high population densities compared to the UK.
Those are the areas where crime, gun related or otherwise is most prevalent. Even London, with it's substantial population would rank far down the
list of urban population density if it were located in the US. NYC would be roughly equal in population but probably has nearly twice the population
Heck, I'll look it up and compare some:
NYC - Population density of 27,012.5/sq mi
London - Population density of 13,466/sq mi
List of US cities by population density:
Going by this list, there are 49 cities in the US with higher population densities than London and while I'm not familiar with all the urban areas in
the UK, I would imagine London probably tops the list for the UK.
There are around 300,000,000 privately owned firearms(Not counting those obtained illicitly) in the US and in 2008 there were 11,493 homicide deaths*
attributed to guns. Let's assume some of those were multiple homicides, so let's say 10,500 firearms were involved. That would mean for every gun
involved in a homicide, there were 28,571 that were not.
The vast majority of legal gun owners in this country are law abiding people that use their weapons for self-defense, hunting or sport. Many of the
gun related crimes in this country are committed by people that obtain their weapons illegally. These are people that don't care about laws to begin
with so no ban would affect them. A ban on alcohol didn't stop people from obtaining it. It begat violence and in the end, the people that wanted it
enough obtained it. The war on drugs begat even more violence over a longer time frame and in the end, the people that want the drugs obtain them.
You cannot legislate something out of existence, and you certainly can't legislate evil or mentally unstable people out of existence. They always have
and always will exist. The tools they use may have changed over time and yes, firearms have the potential to make them more dangerous but one way or
the other, they will find a means to their end, however warped and twisted that end may be.
*Disclaimer* I don't post much on ATS these days so if I don't revisit this thread immediately after a response, it doesn't mean I'm a hit and run
poster. I just don't frequent the site much.
edit on 23-12-2012 by Graybeard because: Added links.