Americans Must Watch; The true sentiment of the British!, page 10

Originally posted by digital01anarchy

Originally posted by Wongbeedman

Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by Freeborn

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IMO you are an obvious disinfo agent who quite readily came up with CIA from mention of Langley, something that many here couldn't do. I could think of no other reason my British brothers would be so bothered by our second amendment right.

And I'm f**king Bond, James Bond. Us here over at mi6 have been getting quite worried about the mental health of our little American brothers, and we'd like to remind them that, its not the 1700s anymore, an old musket is entirely different to a modern handgun, its no longer acceptable to keep natives as slaves and to sell your wives on the market
Regards,
007

edit on 19-12-2012 by Wongbeedman because: (no reason given)

Dear James bond,
This is Jason Bourne you have been replaced! good luck fighting pussy galore, and a guy with a sharp hat!
you should worry about your own problems! PS Good luck trying to keep up that straight spy image while drinking a Appletini, Your predecessor Jason bourne

edit on 19-12-2012 by digital01anarchy because: (no reason given)

Who the hell is Jason Bourne? I dont need a predecessor, i regenerate every few films like doctor who! Go tell those Russians to worry about their own problems, actually go tell your gov to worry about your own problems too.

Originally posted by tigercat1971

Originally posted by squarehead666
Chill out guys.....Something really bad just happened over there (I think we can all agree on that regardless of our opinions on the cause) and emotions are running high.

A little more consideration and understanding wouldn't hurt.....These were kids FFS!

It is worth pointing out as a matter of historical accuracy that the UK actually lost slightly more lives in WWII than the USA:

USA - 418,500
UK - 450,900

By comparison:

USSR - 23,400,000

en.wikipedia.org...

edit on 18-12-2012 by squarehead666 because: content

It might help our American cousins to see these figures, but your woefully inaccurate regarding the British deaths. It's impossible to be 100% accurate but it's generally considered to be between 4 & 12 million British who died during this conflict.

edit on 18-12-2012 by tigercat1971 because: Posted incorrectly

Actually I think you may find that the figure you are quoting is for the UK & Commonwealth as a whole.....Do you have a link to the source for your stats?

Originally posted by Wongbeedman

Originally posted by digital01anarchy

Originally posted by Wongbeedman

Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by Freeborn

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IMO you are an obvious disinfo agent who quite readily came up with CIA from mention of Langley, something that many here couldn't do. I could think of no other reason my British brothers would be so bothered by our second amendment right.

And I'm f**king Bond, James Bond. Us here over at mi6 have been getting quite worried about the mental health of our little American brothers, and we'd like to remind them that, its not the 1700s anymore, an old musket is entirely different to a modern handgun, its no longer acceptable to keep natives as slaves and to sell your wives on the market
Regards,
007

edit on 19-12-2012 by Wongbeedman because: (no reason given)

Dear James bond,
This is Jason Bourne you have been replaced! good luck fighting pussy galore, and a guy with a sharp hat!
you should worry about your own problems! PS Good luck trying to keep up that straight spy image while drinking a Appletini, Your predecessor Jason bourne

edit on 19-12-2012 by digital01anarchy because: (no reason given)

Who the hell is Jason Bourne? I dont need a predecessor, i regenerate every few films like doctor who! Go tell those Russians to worry about their own problems, actually go tell your gov to worry about your own problems too.

Originally posted by Wongbeedman

Originally posted by digital01anarchy

Originally posted by Wongbeedman

Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by Freeborn

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IMO you are an obvious disinfo agent who quite readily came up with CIA from mention of Langley, something that many here couldn't do. I could think of no other reason my British brothers would be so bothered by our second amendment right.

And I'm f**king Bond, James Bond. Us here over at mi6 have been getting quite worried about the mental health of our little American brothers, and we'd like to remind them that, its not the 1700s anymore, an old musket is entirely different to a modern handgun, its no longer acceptable to keep natives as slaves and to sell your wives on the market
Regards,
007

edit on 19-12-2012 by Wongbeedman because: (no reason given)

Dear James bond,
This is Jason Bourne you have been replaced! good luck fighting pussy galore, and a guy with a sharp hat!
you should worry about your own problems! PS Good luck trying to keep up that straight spy image while drinking a Appletini, Your predecessor Jason bourne

edit on 19-12-2012 by digital01anarchy because: (no reason given)

Who the hell is Jason Bourne? I dont need a predecessor, i regenerate every few films like doctor who! Go tell those Russians to worry about their own problems, actually go tell your gov to worry about your own problems too.

Doctor who lol and james bond is boring talk about a concept that has been done to death lol nice car and maybe two or three good looking women with a mega budget set in Europe or the middle east or Asia. Gee i wonder if the reason you like James bond is because hes mi6 and from England? And before you get all Americans know nothing of foreign films, Battle royal "Japanese", District 13 "French" old boy "Korean" , i could go on and i know these films are very well known but not so much in America where they make mock versions of them like battle royal = American hunger games. The Bourne ultimatum is a grimmer, darker, nastier, better version of james bond without all the flash of expensive cars, gizmos and hot women.

reply to post by Freeborn

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1. The English Civil War was a conflict of elites. The counter elite in Parliament were fighting for power with the monarchy. The French revolution followed similar lines. The closest Britain has come to a popular uprising was during the early 1800's with the Chartist movement.

2. Members of the American general population and not all by any means took up arms to fight the British with the help of the French.

3. The end of Habeus Corpus, military detention, Wako, Ruby Ridge,... the list goes on.

4. Is it relevant now. Not really. You could argue that the Second Amendment is an anachronism. It's out-dated. why? Because many Americans own arms to plink off rounds at the range and if they really cared about defending themselves against tyrannical government then they'd be out in the streets in numbers or protesting instead of polishing their German made firearms.

But while the Second Amendment exists as a safeguard against tyrannical government then that principal must be upheld. The people must have the moral and physical authority to defend themselves even if the will has long since diminished.

The elections are a farce - an illusion of choice. How many working class people voted for Obama just because he looks the part while all the while he is bailing out the banks that stole what little they had. People elected Obama because it was easier to hope for change and give that authority figure the responsibility than to try and effect real change for themselves.

Bush and Obama are peas in a pod. Obama's role was to avert an uprising. The first black President - surely the masses wouldn't revolt against that - there's hope after all...

I think it's kind of hard to compare the two countries strictly off population, murder rate or crime rate. The US has five times the population and while I don't know the numbers offhand, I would wager there are far more areas in the United States with high population densities compared to the UK. Those are the areas where crime, gun related or otherwise is most prevalent. Even London, with it's substantial population would rank far down the list of urban population density if it were located in the US. NYC would be roughly equal in population but probably has nearly twice the population density.

Heck, I'll look it up and compare some:

NYC - Population density of 27,012.5/sq mi

en.wikipedia.org...

London - Population density of 13,466/sq mi

en.wikipedia.org...

List of US cities by population density:

en.wikipedia.org...

Going by this list, there are 49 cities in the US with higher population densities than London and while I'm not familiar with all the urban areas in the UK, I would imagine London probably tops the list for the UK.

There are around 300,000,000 privately owned firearms(Not counting those obtained illicitly) in the US and in 2008 there were 11,493 homicide deaths* attributed to guns. Let's assume some of those were multiple homicides, so let's say 10,500 firearms were involved. That would mean for every gun involved in a homicide, there were 28,571 that were not.

* www.cdc.gov...

The vast majority of legal gun owners in this country are law abiding people that use their weapons for self-defense, hunting or sport. Many of the gun related crimes in this country are committed by people that obtain their weapons illegally. These are people that don't care about laws to begin with so no ban would affect them. A ban on alcohol didn't stop people from obtaining it. It begat violence and in the end, the people that wanted it enough obtained it. The war on drugs begat even more violence over a longer time frame and in the end, the people that want the drugs obtain them.

You cannot legislate something out of existence, and you certainly can't legislate evil or mentally unstable people out of existence. They always have and always will exist. The tools they use may have changed over time and yes, firearms have the potential to make them more dangerous but one way or the other, they will find a means to their end, however warped and twisted that end may be.

JMO.

*Disclaimer* I don't post much on ATS these days so if I don't revisit this thread immediately after a response, it doesn't mean I'm a hit and run poster. I just don't frequent the site much.

Originally posted by digital01anarchy

Originally posted by Wongbeedman

Originally posted by digital01anarchy

Originally posted by Wongbeedman

Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by Freeborn

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IMO you are an obvious disinfo agent who quite readily came up with CIA from mention of Langley, something that many here couldn't do. I could think of no other reason my British brothers would be so bothered by our second amendment right.

And I'm f**king Bond, James Bond. Us here over at mi6 have been getting quite worried about the mental health of our little American brothers, and we'd like to remind them that, its not the 1700s anymore, an old musket is entirely different to a modern handgun, its no longer acceptable to keep natives as slaves and to sell your wives on the market
Regards,
007

edit on 19-12-2012 by Wongbeedman because: (no reason given)

Dear James bond,
This is Jason Bourne you have been replaced! good luck fighting pussy galore, and a guy with a sharp hat!
you should worry about your own problems! PS Good luck trying to keep up that straight spy image while drinking a Appletini, Your predecessor Jason bourne

edit on 19-12-2012 by digital01anarchy because: (no reason given)

Who the hell is Jason Bourne? I dont need a predecessor, i regenerate every few films like doctor who! Go tell those Russians to worry about their own problems, actually go tell your gov to worry about your own problems too.

YouTube Link

Doctor who lol and james bond is boring talk about a concept that has been done to death lol nice car and maybe two or three good looking women with a mega budget set in Europe or the middle east or Asia. Gee i wonder if the reason you like James bond is because hes mi6 and from England? And before you get all Americans know nothing of foreign films, Battle royal "Japanese", District 13 "French" old boy "Korean" , i could go on and i know these films are very well known but not so much in America where they make mock versions of them like battle royal = American hunger games. The Bourne ultimatum is a grimmer, darker, nastier, better version of james bond without all the flash of expensive cars, gizmos and hot women.

edit on 20-12-2012 by digital01anarchy because: (no reason given)

We were joking, why did you feel the need to prove that the Bourne series is better than James bond

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