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The "Red Hook" is Satan's fire-brand, or "poker".
Originally posted by NJoyZ
reply to post by Aesir26
I don't have any problem with what your saying, I support your claims, and honor your research. Except for that part of the "red" hook being equal to the devils poker. That is a very modern (since like the middle ages) perspective of the devil. I just don't think that people who are so into the ancient occult would use blatantly modern concepts for a ritual like this.
Originally posted by bastet11
reply to post by windword
On the first picture, where it says "Strike Zone 5", look up a little to the top right hand side.
Also, you can look at this map and zoom in by clicking on it. It is in the top middle/left hand side..
Gotham City Map Dark Knight Rises
Then Nahash the Ammonite came up, and encamped against Jabeshgilead: and all the men of Jabesh said unto Nahash, Make a covenant with us, and we will serve thee.
2 And Nahash the Ammonite answered them, On this condition will I make a covenant with you, that I may thrust out all your right eyes, and lay it for a reproach upon all Israel.
3 And the elders of Jabesh said unto him, Give us seven days' respite, that we may send messengers unto all the coasts of Israel: and then, if there be no man to save us, we will come out to thee.
Perhaps the Ammonites were the forerunners of Christianity? According to Wikipedia:
Originally posted by Aesir26
reply to post by Aesir26
The descendents of the Turanians are the Khazars/Huns.
"They made their foes flee in horror because their swarthy aspect was fearful, and they had, if I may call it so, a sort of shapeless lump, not a head, with pin-holes rather than eyes. Their hardihood is evident in their wild appearance, and they are beings who are cruel to their children on the very day they are born. For they cut the cheeks of the males with a sword, so that before they receive the nourishment of milk they must learn to endure wounds. Hence they grow old beardless and their young men are without comeliness, because a face furrowed by the sword spoils by its scars the natural beauty of a beard. They are short in stature, quick in bodily movement, alert horsemen, broad shouldered, ready in the use of bow and arrow, and have firm-set necks which are ever erect in pride. Though they live in the form of men, they have the cruelty of wild beasts." (Jordanes)edit on 19-12-2012 by Aesir26 because: (no reason given)