Originally posted by dowot
Can any one identify what aircraft they were travellin in, from the photo, and confirm that that was the type of plane used on that actual flight?

This is a really good point.

Or whether this flight actually existed???

This would be a good potential hoax indicator.

Wow, that was quick 50/50. So it could certainly be a photo from the plane.

Anyone able to hack into the flight manifest, then we would know who was aboard?

Agree, wait for other photos, but not holding my breath, who talks on a flight and it would probably be so fleeting that others would not have seen it?

One thing that does puzzle, every time I have traveled in the far east, window curtains/shutters/blinds are drawn within a few minutes of starting. It always annoys me that my view out is blocked. Does not even seem to be connected with extreme sunlight.

I thought that it was only at take-off and landing that it is requested that phones are turned off.

As an aside, would it be a possible theory that saucer (and cigar shaped) shaped craft are from elsewhere but the triangular ones originated from here? Governmental products.

everyones an expert debunker

yes ill take your word for it if you say

its fake/cgi its got to be

all you debunkers what you going to do if

you get to see one for yourself

poop your pants or claim its fake/cgi

Nice picture, but the sad thing is that even with so much evidence, some people still can't believe life can exist beyond earth.

Originally posted by Eskuma
Nice picture, but the sad thing is that even with so much evidence, some people still can't believe life can exist beyond earth.

That's not true. I think the majority are like myself. I believe without a doubt that life exists out in the cosmos. Probably even more advanced civilizations than ourselves, even more probably; lifeforms that we can't even imagine to exist given our limited scientific knowledge. What I don't believe is that they are flying around our planet in spaceships in broad daylight at airliner altitudes with no intention to make themselves known having used all the energy and resources needed to reach us. Chances are they will never discover us and we will never discover them. It would be like trying to find one particular grain of sand in the Sahara desert.

Only when I see something with my own eyes that without a shadow of a doubt is extra-terrestrial, will I believe that they have visited Earth. A photo or video is not evidence of alien visitation, it is only evidence of an unidentified object. the meaning of UFO, as you will be aware, does not mean alien.

Originally posted by fiftyfifty

What I don't believe is that they are flying around our planet in spaceships in broad daylight at airliner altitudes with no intention to make themselves known having used all the energy and resources needed to reach us

The motives and MO's of supposed ET's or ED's have been the subject of years of debate and speculation. What remains is witness testimony, photographic and film evidence, government documentation released under FOI. The fact that whilst some government and military agencies deny having any interest in the subject they collect data for analysis, the fact that said agencies interview and debrief witnesses, the fact that they issue memorandums to downplay and ridicule the subject in the MSM. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, I would not dismiss this subject based upon your rationale.

Only when I see something with my own eyes that without a shadow of a doubt is extra-terrestrial, will I believe that they have visited Earth.

This is an impossibility, how could you ever be without a shadow of a doubt that something is ET?

Originally posted by seabhac-rua

Originally posted by fiftyfifty

What I don't believe is that they are flying around our planet in spaceships in broad daylight at airliner altitudes with no intention to make themselves known having used all the energy and resources needed to reach us

The motives and MO's of supposed ET's or ED's have been the subject of years of debate and speculation. What remains is witness testimony, photographic and film evidence, government documentation released under FOI. The fact that whilst some government and military agencies deny having any interest in the subject they collect data for analysis, the fact that said agencies interview and debrief witnesses, the fact that they issue memorandums to downplay and ridicule the subject in the MSM. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, I would not dismiss this subject based upon your rationale.

Only when I see something with my own eyes that without a shadow of a doubt is extra-terrestrial, will I believe that they have visited Earth.

This is an impossibility, how could you ever be without a shadow of a doubt that something is ET?

- Witness testimony can easily be made up for various motivating reasons = low credibility
- Photographic and film evidence is not reliable as it either shows something that can't be explained because it is too blurry, dark or short to identify what we are actually looking at. Anything that looks clearly unlike anything known to be of Earth can be faked. In my opinion = ZERO credibility
- Govermnent documentation doesn't indicate any specific alien cases. Only admission that they haven't been able to identify certain objects. This doesn't rule our foreign military craft, weather phenomenon, hoaxes etc.

The rest of what you say is taking fact and blending it with your beliefs so it fits.

I rely on my eyes to tell me what is real and what is not and if I believe something is real after seeing it then that FOR ME is without doubt.

Originally posted by magma
Looks fake to me

Too clear through window

Yeah windows aren't for clear viewing

Although not able to put the proper amount of time breaking this down and analyzing the photo, I do have some concerns with the photograph.

My most prioritized problem is the shadows and the Sun's reflection on the plane.. versus whats on the UFO (or actually more correctly.. whats not on the UFO).

Originally posted by maryhinge
everyones an expert debunker

yes ill take your word for it if you say

its fake/cgi its got to be

all you debunkers what you going to do if

you get to see one for yourself

poop your pants or claim its fake/cgi

Personally I would go wow they do exsist. In this case though it is fake so no wow from me.