Let me see, where to start?
reply to post by hawkiye
Thanks for reminding us why we separated from you back in 1776!
The War Of Independance in 1776 had absolutely nothing to do with The Right To Bear Arms - apart from spouting jingoistic claptrap I really fail to
see what rational and relevant point you are trying to make here.
Thank god for free speech so we know who all the ignorant emasculated neutered folks are.
Yet you criticise other's for expressing their own freely held opinions simply because they don't agree with you?
reply to post by sonnny1
That old chestnut - cherry picking at it's best.
Of course some Brits advocate loosening of UK gun control laws, but the vast majority oppose any such legislation.
Yet you choose to post one video that is heavily edited to give a very one sided, imblalanced and misrepresentative perspective.
The majority of the protesters shown are from the Countryside Alliance protests against the ban on fox hunting and had nothing whatsoever to do with
the ban on hand guns.
The video portrays an interview with one policeman who wishes to see a relaxation of gun control law yet ignores the multitude of other police
officers who are passionately opposed to any such moves.
reply to post by timetothink
So banning guns will stop crazy people from killing others?
Of course not, just not as many.
Criminals get them illegally....is that so hard to understand?
Obviously, especially in countries like the UK where handgun ownership is illegal.
And so it is far harder to obtain handguns, even for criminals.
Which is why gun related crime in the UK is still a very rare thing when compared to the US - yes it is on the increase, and there are various reasons
for that and our government needs to start addressing these issues with a matter of urgency, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be a priority with our
current government which is obsessed with other matters.
Gun related deaths in the US is about 3 per 100,000.
In the UK it is 0.07 per 100,000.
Gun related deaths in the US are 8 times higher than those of comparable economic and political standing.
And our military wont be a part of trying to collect them.
Are you really certain?
However, I don't think it'll ever be likely that they will be asked to do so.
Apparently you haven't learned much about American history.
To be fair, American history isn't high on the agenda for many nations.
And if we are being really honest even in America you only get a heavily edited and one-sided version of it - I suppose the same could be said about
Brits are the weak ones who let their government take their guns.......see we don't have a monarchy.
The last thing Brits can be called is weak, I respectfully suggest Sir that you try to study some of our history and culture with an open and honest
mind to give you a more balanced perspective.
And the fact we have a constitutional monarchy is totally irrelevant to this discussion.
And since you live in a monarchy, it's clear you don't understand how our government works.
How do you work that out?
And by that reasoning you have no idea how any other nation / system works.
You still have 6,000,000 guns in your country.
Most of them seem to be in the hands of criminals.
The vast majority are legally held by citizens who meet certain legal criteria.
If you don't like us having guns.....
Some common ground.
One of the major differences between US and UK culture is the atitude to gun control.
Gun ownership is embedded in the US psyche and is completely different to the UK's.
What is right for one is not right for the other.
If the US wishes to choose to keep their Right To Bear Arms it is entirely up to Americans - same as we freely choose not to have it - neither is a
sign of weakness.
I'd suggest that as guns are so common and readily available it would be folly to enforce a carte blance ban on them in the US - but they aren't that
common here in the UK and we don't want them to be.
Each to their own.
edit on 18/12/12 by Freeborn because: grammar and clarity