#9 Guns aren't the issue, we need to help mental people
Well, agreed here and on both counts. They aren't and we do. If we care to see where Mental Health in this nation failed and where to look for a place
to work back to, it would be 1981/82. One of Reagan's opening moves as President was the dismantling of one of the better Mental Health systems in the
world. As much as I love Reagan as a President? What he did wrong he did VERY VERY wrong. He was a man with little for half way...including good and
#10 But look what happened in the UK after guns were taken away
As noted above, the Knives are now the weapon of choice and a very busy one they've become. Criminal mindset wouldn't seem to change around the world,
just the weapon being used.
In this case though, as you would agree I'm sure, we aren't the UK. What happened in the UK is no more relevant to argue for or against our gun laws
than a reverse argument would be for opening gun laws in England. We have no business there..and they have no business here ...beyond personal
opinions to toss into the mix, of course.
#11 Look at how little crime there is in Kennesaw where guns are Mandatory
Hmmm... I've never used this as an example and never plan to. One location went a little bonkers and got a little stupid about writing new regulations
for their town. The fact it worked out for them is nice....but I still wouldn't want to live there. There are gun owners and then there are gun
obsessed owners. Woe be the person who doesn't recognize the difference soon enough, IMO.
#12 I use it for hunting
I do...and Deer hunting here is nearly a state Holiday. I've also used an AR-15 with 30 round magazines for Hog Hunting, Ground Hog hunting and Coyote
Hunting. All of these are extremely damaging little buggers that do massive damage to homes, outbuildings and private property. So food isn't all it's
for and what the weapons are used for in this sense is simply not possible in other ways and with the same effect.
By the way, for perspective, in Missouri there were 590,499 permits issued for firearm hunting season on Deer. In the 2012 hunting season, over 59,000
deer were taken during the hunt.
# of Permits issued
Number of Deer
Thats just Missouri of course... I understand Wisconsin had another 600,000 permits issued this season for their Deer hunt. That would be 1.2
million....roughly...between just 2 states. Hunting is a MAJOR MAJOR thing here. The revenue generated by those permits also funds the majority of
state conservation programs and wildlife care efforts.
#14 America isn't the worst by far when it comes to gun deaths
This is a weak argument and I agree with you here. We aren't the highest but we ARE the highest in the Western World and outside of South Africa, the
developed world as a whole. THAT has to change...although banning guns isn't the answer ...as the crime won't stop. It'll shift weapons
perhaps...it'll change nature...but it won't stop by banning the first weapon of choice to criminals.
#15 I don't care I'm keeping my guns
LOL.... Okay, I figure you probably got a little chuckle out of this and I sure did. As an argument? I think of my Son when he was 3, stomping up and
down over keeping a toy.
It may be a statement of fact, but goes without saying IMO. So voice this argument in a debate....would tell me, the
person has lost the debate and they know it. They're out of good points..and can't even come up with bad ones anymore. This would be the last argument
of the defeated in a SERIOUS debate.
(Sorry about time on this... Today's my B-Day and a lot going on here)
edit on 17-12-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: minor corrections on first point in post