posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 10:00 AM
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by splitfamiliar
I don’t want to single out a single member but In the course of recent debates I have had many members have called me a “subject” many have also
talked about the UK being a “surveillance state” that I am “English” and so on.
Differentiating between the Island People:
First of all, some of us do know the difference bet. Scots, Irish, English etc - but for that to happen, I had to work closely with / among them to
learn these differences, just as I got to know many 'oriental-types' in Australia & can tell the diff. bet. Japanese, Koreans, Malaysian, Indonesian
British Subject vs British Citizen:
I've seen some British passports in RL with "BRITISH SUBJECT" in them which amused me somewhat at the time - but googling 'british passport' just
now only showed images with "BRITISH CITIZEN", leading me to excitedly think "I've jumped universes!!".
Sadly, that wasn't the case, as I Found This... en.wikipedia.org...
AND THEN!!!!!!!!!! I found this as well, explaining the 6 types of BRITISH NATIONALITY.
British Citizens usually hold this status through a connection with the United Kingdom, Channel Islands and Isle of Man ("United Kingdom and
Islands"). [...] British citizenship is the most common type of British nationality, and the only one that automatically carries a right of abode in
the United Kingdom. However, other rights can vary according to how the British citizenship was acquired. In particular there are restrictions for
'British citizens by descent' transmitting British citizenship to their children born outside the UK. These restrictions do not apply to 'British
citizens other than by descent'.
British subjects (as defined in the 1981 Act) are those British subjects who were not CUKCs or citizens of any other Commonwealth country. Most of
these derived their status as British subjects from British India or the Republic of Ireland as they existed before 1949.
Now, the puzzling thing is, the text above implies that "native sorts" are British citizens & subjects of the former British Empire are "british
subjects". But those whose passports I saw in RL (with British Subject written) were all "ethnically-native Island People" meaning ethnically
Anglo-Saxon English, Scots, or Irish types, as opposed to Asian / other. *weird*
CC TV CAMERAS:
WELL!! London has 6 cameras per Human. How is that NOT Orwellian! I was briefly in London some years ago, and it always freaked me out a bit - not
that I care if somebody knows where I am (and yeah it could come in handy if someone tries to mug me or something in a public space), but it's still
Note: I'm "properly Indian" (as opposed to British-Asian), and don't know all that much about the UK / Britain except what I've learnt through
my RL interactions. I also find it ASTOUNDING that UK law doesn't regulate the amount of bread that can be stuffed into sausages - comparing them to
German sausages, I can only shake my head in sorrow