Israel approves 1,500 more settler homes in east Jerusalem, page 6


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reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 04:45 PM by snapperski
reply to post by Unidentified_Objective



Were your outrage at AIPAC President David Steiner Caught on Tape Bragging About his Organization’s Incredible Power in America and conning congress into giving him 10 billion off the books aid back in 1993 and caught Selling US Military Secrets to China.

Were your outrage at GAO Spy Report that confirmed the government accountability office reported that Israel spies on the US more than any other ally.

Were your outrage when more than 60 Israeli spies were arrested and detained, and most of them failed lie-detector tests about their spying activities on the US and their connection to the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Were your outrage at the AIPAC Spying Scandal in 2005 when all charges were dropped against the two Jewish AIPAC employees in 2009, even though the pentagon analyst who pleaded guilty to passing military secrets agreed to testify against the AIPAC employees, and the government had overwhelming evidence to prosecute.

Were your outrage when in 2009 Israel Fires White Phosphorous Shells Into Civilian Locations, Including a Crowded Refugee Camp full of women and children.

Were your outrage when in 2010 Israel was Caught Stealing America’s Nuclear Triggers, and the same year found guilty of Bribes to US News Outlets for Biased Stories to convince Americans to support Israel's agendas.

And what about when Israel Sells US Patriot Missiles to China, Israel demanded that the US provide it with Patriot missiles for defensive purposes against an Iranian strike, but Instead of using the missiles to protect the nation, Israel labeled the missiles fireworks and sold them to China.

And here's the biggest one of them all, on january 13, of this year when a Atlanta Jewish Times Owner who has very powerfull political friends in Israel said that Mossad is Considering Assassinating President Obama for the greater good of Israel and forcing America hand into fighting Iran, and it doesn't matter how you feel about Obama, that is just wrong and speak voulmes of wonderful Israel and her special relationship with America.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 05:28 PM by pacific_waters
But you're confortable with hamas lobbing rockets at civilian targets in violation of international law. How about the arab countries return the property they stole from the Jews they kicked out after the '48 war. The international community shows complete disregard for the legitimate security concerns of Israel. The arabs could have had a state in in 1948 if they hadn't wanted to push the Jews into the sea.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Israel continues to show its complete disregard towards the international community and the Palestinians by announcing 1,500 more settler homes in the illegally occupied East Jerusalem. There is no justification for these actions no matter which side you stand on when it comes to the Israel/Palestine Issue. The "God gave us this land because we are the chosen ones." excuse just doesn't cut it unless you are a deranged lunatic who lacks any morals.

They are thieves who steal land without any remorse for the people they displace.

Israel approved plans to build 1,500 more Jewish settler homes in east Jerusalem on Monday, an official said, days after provoking international protests against a project for another 3,000 such homes on land it captured in the 1967 Six-Day War.

Washington had condemned the latest plans, for ultra-Orthodox neighbourhood Ramat Shlomo, when they were published during a 2010 visit by U.S. Vice President Joe Biden.

Palestinians see the settlements as obstacles to achieving independent statehood. The settlements have been condemned by many countries, and the latest project is slated to be built on a portion of West Bank land Israel annexed as part of Jerusalem, in a move never recognised internationally.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms these Israeli actions and the determination of Israel to continue expanding settlements and in the process undermining the two-state solution," said senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat.

"These are very dangerous and alarming steps. The Israeli government is showing its determination to contravene the will of the international community," the top peace negotiator said.

www.trust.org...


It seems that Netanyahu and his extremist colleagues don't care about peace and are still angry over the recent successful UN bid. Israel said there would be consequences if it went through, and I believe these are the consequences.

It seems like we hear about new settlements every other week now. The international community may speak out against these actions but they don't do much about them. The UN resolutions passed against Israel do no good since Israel simply ignores them.

How can anyone support this?

It's time someone puts an end to these illegal expansions.
edit on 12/17/2012 by Corruption Exposed because: reworded a few sentences



reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 05:33 PM by snapperski
reply to post by pacific_waters




But you're confortable with hamas lobbing rockets at civilian targets in violation of international law.


Really ?





reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 06:25 PM by snapperski
reply to post by pacifier2012





Tell us where you live and I'll reveal who used the own the land you live on now.


I live on planet earth, please enlighten me


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 06:32 PM by christina-66
reply to post by pacifier2012



Tell us where you live and I'll reveal who used the own the land you live on now.

Aside from that, the land they are building on was taken from Israel 2000 years ago. I have no problem with them occupying it again.

On top of that, before 1948, all that land was a wasteland and still would be if Jews did not exist today.


There are internationally recognised boundaries - you know? Like the law? (Oh - that old thing huh? Bloody nuisance I know - but there you go.) ) Boundaries agreed to by the Jews....and they are in breach of those agreements.

Now just how the hell do YOU know it was a wasteland? Did you visit the place yourself before 1948? No? Thought not.

It's amazing what you can do with a desert when you control the water supply all for yourself isn't it! Nothing short of a bloomin' miracle.

I'll never forget the conversation I had with a soldier who served in Palestine in 1948....his barracks were attacked while they slept....by the Stern Gang (Jewish terrorists). The man I discussed this event with was one of two who walked out alive.

Learn your history pacifier2012....start with 'The Promise'.




Then come back and talk about this when YOU actually know something about it....when perhaps you could maybe, just maybe, try and live up to your nom de plume.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 06:39 PM by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by pacific_waters




But you're confortable with hamas lobbing rockets at civilian targets in violation of international law.


Show me where I said that, too bad you can't, chalk that up as a fail on your behalf.

Now I must point out another failure of yours.

What does Hamas have to do with East Jerusalem?

Hamas is in Gaza, not the West Bank. Your post proves to me that you have absolutely no idea of what is going on in the region or that you are purposely deflecting from the topic at hand with Zionist propaganda, I believe it is a mixture of the two.

That is all, carry on, and I hope you enjoy the embarrassment I have just subjected you to.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 07:22 PM by BSFC123
First off, let me say that I pray for all people in the Middle East...Israeli, Palestinian, Egyptian, Iranian, Syrian, etc....the conditions there are terrible and they are going to get worse. Innocent men, women and children, who want no more than to live there lives, are being killed and maimed.

Jesus said two thousand years ago, when Israel becomes a nation again, the generation that sees it come to pass will not pass before he returns. He said that. Now, it's convenient to say that the Bible is a storybook, and that Christians are kooky morons who don't understand anything and believe BS. The book of Daniel accurately foretells the rise and fall of all the empires before the final empire, the reformed Roman empire, which is basically the EU.

OK, so you are going to say that somehow Israel reforming was a self fulfilling prophecy? OK. It also says in the Bible that in the end times Christians will be scoffed at, people will call evil good and good evil....earthquakes will be more powerful and speed up, there will be signs in the sun and the moon. We are at the end of the generation Christ talked about and all of these things are coming to pass. Israel is surrounded by nations ready to destroy her, just as the Bible stated it would be. Gog and Magog are in cahoots and ready to attack.

The Pope is talking about a New World Order. The world is moving towards one religion. The Bible talks about all of this. Now, you say that is all self fulfilling prophecy??? Or coincidence? Only a truly blind or looney person would look at the evidence and say that.

People create their own gods, and they say it is the same God of the Bible. People use their imaginations to create whatever truth they want to create....it's hedonistic. It's people wanting to believe whatever they want to believe because they are their own God....and that is how many will perish.

The Bible teaches that God is a God of love, and he wants to save as many as he can. Many will not be saved, but would rather base their life on whatever brings them pleasure, placing themselves at the center of their own fantasies and wallowing in whatever fleeting pleasure they can find on this fallen earth. Pleasure never brings true happiness, though....only truth can offer that. False religions abound, false gods and teachings abound, but only a fool will look around at what is happening in the Middle East and what is happening in America, and not be able to see what is going. It is much bigger than a dispute over a strip of land in the Middle East. It is a dispute between sinners and God that we really have to face.

Now call me a nut and a crazy and loon. Cool. OK. I pray for anyone, be them Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, New Age, to see the truth before it is too late. Because it doesn't matter whether or not the God of the Bible fits into your system of beliefs....what matters is that your beliefs are based on what's real, and not on deceptions and man made nonsense.

I swear I read so many of these posts, and I see so many intelligent and curious people lost, deceived....saying, man, these crazy Christians think they know it all, but they don't understand alien mythology, or the Buddhist concept of Nirvana, or the fact that we all have our own truth....I used to study ALL of it, the false teachings, the false prophets....they all end up in the same place. They leave a person spiritually dead and confused beyond belief. Ask Christ to come into your heart and show you the truth. I promise, he will, and you will be saved.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

God bless you all.

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reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 08:05 PM by golemina
Originally posted by mikeone718
reply to
post by golemina



Sorry buddy, theres no "truth" in your reply to the OP.
Except for the truth in you being another loon who believes that god chose certain people to rob certain land.


AEIOU.

Dude! I thought you can use the help there Mikey!

Reading comprehension ain't one of your strong suits?

So annoying when REALITY interferes with the hate-mongering you're apparently selling about those 'thieving Jews'... ('rob certain land')...

After 50 years of all of this type activity...

Why is ISRAEL so incredibly tiny?

Forget allah and whatever you perceive as the truth, the fact is that israel only exists and gets to make these illegal moves because the US is ok with it.


Maybe you want to stick with the Allah myth...

Cuz the result on the battlefield is the only thing that really counts...

The Arab ineptitude is quite simply... legendary.

And maybe then people won't in your face.



Why won't you admit this about Arab lies?


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 08:28 PM by TheToastmanCometh
reply to post by snapperski



About time we're wising up to Israel's actions. They're like a spoiled brat, wanting wanting wanting until us as the parent say, enough...

This vid demonstrates this perfectly:


Yeah...America is Cartman's mom and Israel is Cartman.



reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 08:31 PM by Zcustosmorum
reply to post by Corruption Exposed



In 1968 Sirhan Sirhan assassinated Robert Kennedy because of his support to Israel against the Palestinians, says it all really, even 44 years on.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 08:40 PM by golemina
Originally posted by christina-66
reply to
post by pacifier2012



Tell us where you live and I'll reveal who used the own the land you live on now.

Aside from that, the land they are building on was taken from Israel 2000 years ago. I have no problem with them occupying it again.

On top of that, before 1948, all that land was a wasteland and still would be if Jews did not exist today.


There are internationally recognised boundaries - you know? Like the law? (Oh - that old thing huh? Bloody nuisance I know - but there you go.) ) Boundaries agreed to by the Jews....and they are in breach of those agreements.

Now just how the hell do YOU know it was a wasteland? Did you visit the place yourself before 1948? No? Thought not.

It's amazing what you can do with a desert when you control the water supply all for yourself isn't it! Nothing short of a bloomin' miracle.

I'll never forget the conversation I had with a soldier who served in Palestine in 1948....his barracks were attacked while they slept....by the Stern Gang (Jewish terrorists). The man I discussed this event with was one of two who walked out alive.

Learn your history pacifier2012....start with 'The Promise'.




Then come back and talk about this when YOU actually know something about it....when perhaps you could maybe, just maybe, try and live up to your nom de plume.


Mind if I join in...

Have you actually been to Israel?

Why don't you guide us to your web pages documenting your travels?

What kind of simplistic nonsense are you trying to support your arguments?

Internationally recognized borders are NOT the law.




reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 09:18 PM by callousbastard
reply to post by MarksThoughts



Please don't be such an obvious shill.

If western property rights were even a consideration in this conflict, the Israeli occupational government wouldn't exist.

People living on the land, living off the land - have their land taken from them at gunpoint. That's the basic reality that you are opinionating (harrowingly bad) about.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 09:23 PM by WaterBottle
reply to post by MarksThoughts



People have no right to steal land.....

If I take your house by force are you gonna be ok with it? No. You won't.

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